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Tuesday, September 16, 2025
I see people arguing about the "difficulty"
and debating that
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131 it's still the best metroidvania to come out since HK, which.... might say something about the genre (edited)
I refuse. I think Nine Sols is a much better game. Though maybe not specifically a better metroidvania because it has weaker exploration, but the combat is much more fun.
but not about the game as a whole (maybe they are, I've been wanting to finish to really dig in after all)
100%
But I was told it would be the game of all time that would end gaming
I can see the seams of Silksong really clearly too, I'm sure there was a different direction they were going before this became HK 1.5
Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak But I was told it would be the game of all time that would end gaming
I'm actually lying to convince people here not to play it. It secretly is the greatest game to ever come out. There will never be a game as great as Silksong again. We have peaked as a species. We may as well go extinct now.
Maybe someday I will play hollowknight and then silksong then I can know if you are lying or not
odds of that seem low though
The Youtube bait people will start saying it's a bad game at some point, which it's not
but I do hate this is all we're going to get from metroidvanias until the end of time
Spooky whow as the animal well guy, I feel like he is playing this game
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131 I can see the seams of Silksong really clearly too, I'm sure there was a different direction they were going before this became HK 1.5
Curious on this. How do you think it changed exactly? I was moreso under the impression that Hornet was just going to be added DLC to run around Hollownest and they decided to add an entire new game instead.
just a hunch
I think it is true they at some point decided to take Hornet and make a standalone game, rather then put her in the original game
and I think originally that was due to her height
which is funny, because in the end for the version we got
they made her shorter again, and could have just put her in the 1st game
I think once they decided they were making a standalone game, they may have gone in different directions with it
my complete guess is they were doing multiple characters, and condensed it down to just Hornet in the end
But I also feel strongly that the plan they had for the world changed
the version of silksong also feels like a first pass at combining a lot of stuff, and was only lightly playtested
So I'd bet ~2 years was when they pivoted back to this being the base Hollow Knight formula for the whole game
The 3 act structure thing also does not feel good or complete
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131 the version of silksong also feels like a first pass at combining a lot of stuff, and was only lightly playtested
I definitely agree that certain areas don't feel playtested. Not really surprising with such a small team. I can imagine it's very easy to be SO used to a game that you don't know what a new player will do or experience.
The strongest part of the game in terms of world/level design were the first 4-5 areas in act 1
the quest system also
is just weird
the rosery economy is weird
the shard economy is bad design (seperate issue)
Pika
for you as a 3rd party
how many MMO quests do you think are in this game
would you guess
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131 the shard economy is bad design (seperate issue)
Well yes, I don't even know how a single person could have thought this was a good idea.
I kept thinking "these quests are so bad, there's no way these aren't dynamic quests"
at multiple points
there are ~10 "sniff the cumstain and follow the smoke"
there are ~20 "kill 0/15 rats and bring me their pelts"
there are ~7 delivery/escort quests
nor do I
you were wrong about the mushrooms, but that's all
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131 there are ~10 "sniff the cumstain and follow the smoke" there are ~20 "kill 0/15 rats and bring me their pelts" there are ~7 delivery/escort quests
Also the quest I couldn't be bothered to do: Go kill about 30 enemies total with specific tools.
yeah FUCK that one
poorly explained too
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131 you were wrong about the mushrooms, but that's all
Are you gonna be as adamant about this one as your DS3 head canon
a lot of them were
Replying to Gent #gent_. Are you gonna be as adamant about this one as your DS3 head canon
Gent, it's literally one of the main act 3 quests, I'm not arguing this
when you eventually play it you'll see that the devs clearly did intend for it to be thematically what I said
which makes sense, because that fits in with their whole world anyway
there's also the lack of bosses
I don't understand why they feel so backloaded
and why they feel worse than HK
Replying to TinyBomby #tinybomby What did you say about the mushroom, Spooky?
the Mushroom storyline from the first game, is they they'll outlast the dying world, they always have, and again in Silksong that's their storyline again
it was a (weak) sequel hook in the 1st game
that's what I said as well when Gent sperged out about it the first time