Replying to PirateMan64 #zytohn It's more retarded to say pharahs eocket jump ability is more unique than spy's disguise
Where did i say that?
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Tuesday, June 3, 2025
Then what does your srgument hinge on?
I asked a question
And I'd appreciate keeping things good faith
Replying to PirateMan64 #zytohn And I'd appreciate keeping things good faith
My b, ill get back to this when I have some time
Wednesday, June 4, 2025
Replying to PirateMan64 #zytohn I could just as well say that overwatch is a class based arena shooter and tf2 is a hero shooter
Don’t let up, TF2 was the first hero shooter. Don’t let overwatch take that title just because they called them “characters,” and not “classes.”
Thursday, June 5, 2025
If there is a distinction between a "hero shooter" and "class based arena shooter" it'd have to be a lore-based one imo. Am curious to see what polar will claim that his argument hinges on though
Don't most hero shooters prevent you from having duplicate team members?
I feel like that would be the distinction?
If Marvel Rivals allowed two people on the same team to pick magneto, I think people would still call it a hero shooter
Also as polar said, overwatch let you pick more than one character on each team until people complained. I don't think people only began viewing it as a "hero shooter" at that point
Replying to PirateMan64 #zytohn If there is a distinction between a "hero shooter" and "class based arena shooter" it'd have to be a lore-based one imo. Am curious to see what polar will claim that his argument hinges on though
Hi, my argument hinges on the fact that hero shooters are as inspired by MOBAs as they are class based shooters ig. I don't think Lore really has any place in determining if its a hero shooter. All these games came out post-LoL/Dota boom and 10 years after TF2. All these games have passive abilities, Cool down based spells/abilities, and ultimates. They also all have large rosters to suit different styles of play and are 1 character of X per team (like a moba). TF2 is more modular in what a class does, less competitive, and simply doesnt have any of those aspects. I think retroactively calling it a hero shooter is kinda disingenuous, but i can see how youd come to that conclusion since people see it as the basis of future hero shooters. I realistically just think it was the most similar thing that existed in the market previously.
Replying to Polar_ #polar_ Hi, my argument hinges on the fact that hero shooters are as inspired by MOBAs as they are class based shooters ig. I don't think Lore really has any place in determining if its a hero shooter. All these games came out post-LoL/Dota boom and 10 years after TF2. All these games have passive abilities, Cool down based spells/abilities, and ultimates. They also all have large rosters to suit different styles of play and are 1 character of X per team (like a moba). TF2 is more modular in what a class does, less competitive, and simply doesnt have any of those aspects. I think retroactively calling it a hero shooter is kinda disingenuous, but i can see how youd come to that conclusion since people see it as the basis of future hero shooters. I realistically just think it was the most similar thing that existed in the market previously. (edited)
So you'd say it has a lot to do with the lineage essentially?
Even though tf2 has class abilites that are mechanically pretty much the same as the hero abilities, it's the labelling of them as ultimates, the cooldowns, and everything like that which they have taken from mobas that make them hero shooters
Yeah, those would be the moba inspired aspects then
So partly one would have to say its a volume thing though
The fact that in the hero shooters things like that reach a point where it becomes a core aspect
No but tf2 has those things
Just not for all classes to a great extent
Yeah so at that point it'd be a volime thing
Idk, I still think if a tf2 reskin featuting the justice league came out today it'd be called a hero shooter. Though that's if course a hypothetical scenario and we couldn't know until it'd happened. But I think I can see your point of view and somewhat respect your opinion
I dont think a product like TF2 as it is could come out mechanically the same. It would have to be more akin to Marvel Rivals/OW/Apex etc. I can understand labeling it hero shooter though, its just easier to assign it as such. Honestly labels like that/genres in general are pretty messy when not talking in broad strokes.
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This is such a trip, these are exactly like his old con videos from 12 years ago
we've entered a time loop
Saturday, June 7, 2025
Fire could have played blackjack with Rob
I love this picture
Sunday, June 8, 2025
If I could just casually do math and fuck around forever, I'd do it. I think wanting to work is cringe
But if you want to retire and don't even know what the fuck you want to do, thats weird
It's complex, because I think people should want to set and pursue their own goals in life, which are very rarely ever going to be financially compensated like working a 9-5 is
I think you can live a satisfying life without having to work a 9-5 job
I think people who only have ever known working the majority of their lives do have trouble adapting to being free to pursue their own interests
I agree though, if you have zero aspiriation for things to do with free time, then you probably are the type who dies after retiring
I also think there are people who lack the ambition to do anything other than passively consume media slop
I actively consume my media slop
I just can't square the mindset of, your life needing structure set by a boss in order to be happy/fulfilled
I engage in intellectual discussions on my slop, making it active consumption! KappaRosss
Yeah, I don't understand people like that
I have weeks where I have nothing to do and I've never once felt bored
what do you mean "fill", idk why people should need to be babysat by an employer on the offchance they might get bored
I think if you have any level of active imagination, you are just defacto fine
I benifit from having deadlines in the way that I am good at knowing how long things take me to do so I make sure I start so I finish by the deadline, other than that, I don't really need them
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131 what do you mean "fill", idk why people should need to be babysat by an employer on the offchance they might get bored
Being bored and life being pointless aren't the same thing.