Message in #rawb · Neon Genesis Phijkchu

Reaper Bird Jul 19, 2022 9:48 AM rawb

Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131

My other question, if I have three videos from the same stream (due to Rob starting/stopping) I'm currently doing {005} Radical Heights | Part 1 {005} Radical Heights | Part 2 {005} Radical Heights | Part 3 I could alternatively do {005} Radical Heights 1/3 {005} Radical Heights 2/3 {005} Radical Heights 3/3 or {005.1} Radical Heights {005.2} Radical Heights {005.3} Radical Heights

go with the first one. your already doing it

Spooky Phijkchu Jul 19, 2022 9:50 AM rawb

I liked pirates suggestion if the second set of brackets

Spooky Phijkchu Jul 19, 2022 9:51 AM rawb

idk, I'll leave it like this for today, before I start uploading more

Spooky Phijkchu Jul 19, 2022 9:52 AM rawb

12 vods is easy enough to change around, 500... less so

Reaper Bird Jul 19, 2022 9:55 AM rawb

meh, I'm biased cause I wanna watch them, and its one of the few large amounts I didnt get to watch live or vod at all

Reaper Bird Jul 19, 2022 9:56 AM rawb

only a few clips that we got up there

Swatchling Jul 19, 2022 12:11 PM rawb

So if Rob is gonna start making people pay for his old videos, he's probably going to try to have the site taken down right?

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:17 PM rawb

he gave up on that idea so long ago

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:18 PM rawb

and we already discussed how it would probably take too much effort and money for rob to try and sue spooky, and he'd probably lose

Swatchling Jul 19, 2022 12:20 PM rawb

How in the world would he lose?

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:25 PM rawb

well all of his videos were availible publicly before he took them down, and many of them were posted to other platforms that might have their own conditions for that kind of thing

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:25 PM rawb

also he said in discord people could back them up so it's legal Kappa

Swatchling Jul 19, 2022 12:31 PM rawb

I really don't think one message on discord would make it so his work can legally be uploaded anywhere, and i'm pretty sure he still has ownership of his stuff even if it was uploaded on other platforms. It may be costly, but I really doubt Rob would lose a court case

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:31 PM rawb

who would rob even sue, he doesn't know spooky

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:31 PM rawb

i don't even know spooky

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:31 PM rawb

well I'm no expert on anything legal but

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:32 PM rawb

assuming rob had a 100% take-down case, he'd still have to actually have something to argue it to its full extent

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:33 PM rawb

has this situation had any precedent before though

Swatchling Jul 19, 2022 12:34 PM rawb

I think of it like uploaded episodes of a discontinued TV show online, it was available publicly on TV at one point but the people who made it still have ownership of it

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:34 PM rawb

well yeah

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:35 PM rawb

but people running a TV show have the stuff ready to basically be able to execute on their rights

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:35 PM rawb

which rob doesn't

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:35 PM rawb

again i'm no expert but common sense dictates he'd likely struggle to put forward a case to its full extent

Swatchling Jul 19, 2022 12:36 PM rawb

That's true, I guess it's unlikely he'd do much, but I think if he really wanted to he could have the site taken down

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:38 PM rawb

spooky might have more of a concrete idea

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:38 PM rawb

actually he probably doesn't

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:38 PM rawb

he probably just thinks he can win against the enforcement rather than the legal proceedings

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:38 PM rawb

Rob is broke

1

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:38 PM rawb

He'd be suing in a different country

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:39 PM rawb

this kind of lawsuit would take like 10k minimum

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:39 PM rawb

Rob would also have to provr damages to get payed

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:39 PM rawb

(that is the actual reason spooky is fine, besides the fact that rob probably wouldn't even want to tbh)

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:39 PM rawb

so yeah for someone who actively tried to abandon his old content for a while now, that wouldn't be worth it

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:39 PM rawb

He himself took the videos down

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:40 PM rawb

So its not like the site being up drained hus cash

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:40 PM rawb

also spooky probably has more resources than rob does atm

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:40 PM rawb

and he will have the best legal team in the world after phijkchu quest sells 5 million copies

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:41 PM rawb

How this plays out is Rob emails Spooky a Cease and Desist, then spooky either ignores it, or tells Rob to have his lawyer contact him

Swatchling Jul 19, 2022 12:41 PM rawb

I meant once he started making peoplepay for his old videos, he could have a case that he was losing money with the same videos being up for free somewhere else

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:41 PM rawb

it ends there either way

PirateMan64 Jul 19, 2022 12:41 PM rawb

okay hear me out though

PirateMan64 Jul 19, 2022 12:42 PM rawb

what if spooky gave rob the money to sue

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:42 PM rawb

it's also not like spooky is monetizing rob's content, other than the chinese crypto mining programs he puts on everyone who watch from the site

PirateMan64 Jul 19, 2022 12:42 PM rawb

imagine what a power move

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:42 PM rawb

Kapp

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:42 PM rawb

Archival is one of the fair use exceptions

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:42 PM rawb

Rob took everything down

PirateMan64 Jul 19, 2022 12:43 PM rawb

also the lawsuit would make even more fre conentet

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:43 PM rawb

no no no no no

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:43 PM rawb

we need to have rob sue spooky then hype it up for no reason

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:43 PM rawb

to generate buzz for the games

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:43 PM rawb

If anything, Rob would have a better case against zyton since its at least competing on the same platform

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:44 PM rawb

also, rob suing spooky would be content>people

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:44 PM rawb

he can't do that

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:44 PM rawb

i think he can actually just copyright strike zyton using youtube's systme

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:44 PM rawb

Yes

Lute Jul 19, 2022 12:44 PM rawb

god the rob sues spooky and takes ownership of the phijkchu stream house arc is going to be pog

Lute Jul 19, 2022 12:44 PM rawb

I can't wait

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:44 PM rawb

he also gets the shipping containers

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:45 PM rawb

and their contents

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:45 PM rawb

oh no

heir Jul 19, 2022 12:45 PM rawb

not xbrox too

Lute Jul 19, 2022 12:45 PM rawb

xbrox becomes rob's property

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:45 PM rawb

Honestly, the impact spooky's site will have on the money Rob makes will probably be negligable

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:45 PM rawb

The people who would pay Rob 5 dollars a month to see his old videos are mostly retards

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:45 PM rawb

yeah he has to make money first

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:46 PM rawb

well he can probably get a few people who might usually go to the comments

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:46 PM rawb

a lot of his old fans might be in the culture where they already pay for all kinds of patreons/podcast/etc things

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:46 PM rawb

that's if they join up before he responds to their comment

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:48 PM rawb

I think he turns comments off

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 12:48 PM rawb

when he does this

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:48 PM rawb

i think rawb.art kinda helps rob out though

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:48 PM rawb

it sorta absolves him of any wrongdoing for making his stuff paid

reorruatrnte Jul 19, 2022 12:49 PM rawb

since it's not like he's actually paywalling anything

PirateMan64 Jul 19, 2022 1:39 PM rawb

Replying to reorruatrnte #toughbrook

i think he can actually just copyright strike zyton using youtube's systme

nah he would have done that already since he did it for the one urealms live video i uploaded

PirateMan64 Jul 19, 2022 1:40 PM rawb

the youtube bot has to detect matching content from another users youtube videos i think

sudo TPK Jul 19, 2022 4:23 PM rawb

Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak

Rob is broke

This is the simple truth. Lawyers cost money. Even if Rob had a decent case, he'd need Spooky's details to sue him directly. I don't know how sending a C&D to a Peertube site would work since it's an open-source decentralized platform.

sudo TPK Jul 19, 2022 4:23 PM rawb

And then he'd need money to hire a lawyer, cuz no lawyer will do this pro bono.

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 4:24 PM rawb

There are ways to get spooky's info, courts can demand that the company he bought the domain from disclose his info for example I think

Phijkchu_Pikachu Jul 19, 2022 4:24 PM rawb

but all of it takes lawyers

sudo TPK Jul 19, 2022 4:25 PM rawb

Yeah, I should've led with "he'd need lawyers to do all this" rather than put it as the second statement.

Archive details

Neon Genesis Phijkchu

Archive navigation

rawb

Jump to date

Choose a color