games

but dragon quest in america and dq in japan are very different games

oh are they? I've never played a DQ game except the Rocket Slime spinoffs haha

yes.

They do the good thing of technically never changing the story

but they add tons of dialogue gimmicks

and it's all written in eye dialect

I think theyve basically done every single accent from every country atp

dialects are such a difficult thing to deal with in regards to localization tbf

They don't exist in the Japanese version

its all just casual text

ohhhh

oh that's interesting

(this is not my screenshot)

(very funny it says max though)

I was about to say haha

i think the npcs name is max there

I mean, I assume that's a random NPC yeah

They also rename all characters to be medieval

instead of Japanese names

and add constant puns everywhere

but I don't think dragon quest would be even remotely popular in the west

if it didn't have all of that

hmmm So, essentially the localizers took it upon themselves to rewrite the dialogue (keeping the main story) but they actually did it well, so they get a pass?

They simply took the text and instead of the games just being cut dry jrpgs became a lot more silly

due to them adding accents based on the town/region you were in via eye dialect

puns for characters events abilities and monsters

and the changed names to not be Japanese

the tone is drastically different

i lowkey think dragonquest as a kid made me a better reader because a like 9 year old trying to decipher like "Och wuttiz bruv wut sez you? Ye tink we gotz it goin well? Well if ye sez so! AR AR AR"

I remember having that same thing in Rocket Slime actually. Specifically that accent made me so confused.

that and french

"och" and "bruv"

are impossible

lurkink

i would consider them to be much worse games without this

but people super anti localization would say this is a cancer and a failure and woke adding cultures where they werent

I think i would prefer not that just because it makes it harder to read, but i dont think its an example of bad localization.

I think there's an argument to be made that the localizaers have changed the tone of the script, and that's not their job though.

on a different note for good localization, Trails in the sky FC and SC (the original ones, ihave not played the remakes) had localizations that didn't change story or add funny accents like that, but they did change every treasure chest. if you checked an already opened treasure chest, in JP it would just say "the chest is empty" but in the english, every different chest has a different phrase along the lines of "Was the first time not enough for you?"

I'd say the same thing to that though. That changes the tone of the script. I agree that it's a much more fun thing to have, but the localizers are still writing things that aren't there.

I dont think so, you can play the whole game without seeing asingle one of those

you have to go out of your way to re-check treasure chests you already got

and all it replaced was generic "chest is empty" lines

let me have this one tiny, it was a massive pain to get this achievement.

oh that's funny

so is that just not possible if you play in Japanese?

how does that work

i dont know

Many of the jokes they added to the chests were real lame, but I'm still impressed because they had to come up with that many throwaway lines for every single chest in each of these games

there was definitely a couple of duplicate lines in SC

but yeah its a lot of lines to make

Man Trails 1-5 is just peak jrpg gaming

i havent played Sky 3rd or Zero/azure yet

i have them, just havent gotten to them yet

but i really liked FC and SC

i am definitely not doing 100% achievements again though, lol

mostly because after FC/SC they add these and i don't like playing on the hardest difficulty for these kinds of games

No, you're right that Nightmare difficulty effing blows

I thought I'd gotten good at the combat system by the end of FC, so I started SC in nightmare

Its like... every regular encounter could potentially teamwipe and even the guide suggests grinding poms at every available opportunity

yeah that kind of thing isn't fun

lots of grinding and minmaxing character builds

I'm sure the last 30 hours of FC would be earth wall spam

I got a red reaper kill in Vampire Crawlers full release

red reaper?

watch me play really badly and win anyway

is this vampire survivors but as a deck builder

dungeon crawler

I don't know because i never played Vampire Survivors

this is the most absurdly broken build I have achieved though

yes it is, same devs

the game really needs a sort hand button

that 3 in the top right means i have 3 extra lives as well, so I actually had around 8000 hp for this fight

I think resurrection heals you to full

I guess final call for anyone who wants to join the AP asynchronous randomizer we are likely going to start the end of this weekend/monday