games

but yeah, i liked it, combat was fun. i liked the challenge, and almost every boss was enjoyable enough. I think my favorites are First sinner and Lace, i can't think of a 3rd one right at this moment. harder choice for #3. and i do like exploring, for the most part.

was it good

for me, yes

I think it would be hard to argue that; despite their flaws, HK and Silksong aren't some of the highest quality metroidvanias out there

it's frustrating how many missteps Silksong made, and I think there are multiple parts of the game that could easily drive someone to drop the game

but the core metroidvania parts of its DNA are fun

Also, I don't buy for a second anything Team Cherry says about the dev cycle for this game, how it was actually fine and they were just having such a good time developing that they never wanted it to end by having to release a game

idk spooky, they're a rich, 3 man team that didn't have a hard deadline. i could totally see them taking it easy for 7 years

See, I'd believe them if they didn't spend the last 5 years being cute about it

The version of Silksong we got is very clearly a "back-to-its-roots" design, and I'm happy with that since I love HK, but the game very much feels like it came together at the end leading up to release, like any normal game would

to the point I'm at, I think HK is better than Silksong by a little bit, but #1 I'm not done with Silksong yet and #2 my praise for the first game isn't that it's perfect or anything

i wonder if they'll add free expansions to Silksong like they did to HK

I'll preface again with, I'm not done

but it feels like it needs it

well, that's unfair

i dont think it needs it, but it would be nice

it feels like there are some clear things that were in HK as DLC that would be weird if they weren't in Silksong

and in fact, no I will go back and say

the game is already pretty long and the map is way bigger than HK map

if they don't add a Godhome

people will actually be mad

well yeah they should have a pantheon thing

if just for boss rematches

there's a few things like that

I don't think they need to make huge new areas, but there are clearly underbaked areas (like HK v1.0 had) that were planned to be expanded all along

which areas?

and a bunch of the Silksong NPCs, also feel like they should have more

I'd have to boot the game and look at the map

and remember, HK expansions didn't really add a ton to the map itself

there would be a few new sections of map

but most of it was retooling and adding bosses where it felt like there should be some

and then some QoL stuff (like the teleport)

extra stag stations

balance stuff, etc.

completely unrelated to Hollow Knight

the new Nightreign game mode dropped tonight

it's ok, they REALLY need to balance the progression though

they added a (needed) hard mode, that has a world difficulty multiplier for every run you do successfully

but it's tuned really shittily 5 wins to get a lvl2 world, ~20 wins for a lvl3 world

apparently there's already sub-1hour 20 minute speedruns of silksong

of course

I feel like with how easy it is to get vertical mobility

that's not too surprising

wheres the true 100% speedruns

wheere's the steel soul run

that's for real men

100% steel soul no hit speedrun

not that steel soul matters for speedruns anyway, the save gets deleted when they fail

regardless

i can guess hunters memento is probably for completely filling out the hunters journal thing, but its weirdly not required for 100% completion

i thought that would be what stopped me from 100%, because i definitely didnt want to go hunting for that

but no

there are a lot of psuedo immortal hazard enemies you need to dump items to kill

that's part of why I think it's going to remain fairly low

i only really encountered one enemy i could not kill and i really tried

wasnt a boss though so i'm not bent out of shape over it

anyway i want to reiterate that bilewater is the single worst zone and i hate it. and its probably designed to be hated.

I'm surprised that you enjoyed it more than HK. I haven't finished Silksong yet, and it's been many years since I touched HK, but I don't remember getting nearly as frustrated ay anything non-pantheon in HK. Mind you, I still have been enjoyed Silksong quite a bit, but HK feels like the better designed game overall.

I like Silksong more because Controlling hornet is a lot more fun than the knight, and i like the boss fights more. everything else is pretty similar.

though i do think nightmare king Grimm is HK in still up there as one of the best bosses between both games. i just think silksong had more good bosses than HK did

NKG is the only boss I never fought because I did the quest differently and didn't get to his fight and then I was never able to bother going through the Pantheon of Hollownest to reach him and fight him there.

I think the HK bosses are also just way better overall, there are a couple I like in Silksong, but tbh the basic ones tend to be the most fun and a lot of the creative boss mechanics are just reworked versions of stuff from the first game

I guess I technically never fought Pure Knight or whatever he's called and Absolute Radiance for the same reasons

i guess i disagree with spooky

uh... you favorite bosses were also the basic ones

from what you listed

HK bosses felt a lot simpler, but I feel like I liked that better.

sorry, when I say basic

I mean duel style fights, rather than "wail on this big beast for 5 minutes as it thrashes around" fights

spooky i never talked about if the bosses were basic or not, just that i enjoyed the fights more, also idk if i'd call first sinner a basic boss, not complex, but not basic

I feel like Spooky's wording is opposite. Big beast that thrashes around is a lot more "basic" than the intricate duel fights haha

yeah sure

idk what word to use

and imo first sinner is def in the category of good duels

same as the fencing bitch

oh phantom, he was also a fun fight

i did like the Ant queen boss, despite the small enemy swarm before the fight

was that the one underground in the wine cellar?

no