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• I am surprised how little the game has changed in 6 years, it feels fundamentally like the same game with a few more resource types and buildings. None of what has been added feels fully developed either, things were thrown in but never refined
• Having a non-random map is retarded
• Having non-reactive terrain is lame (everything fucking clips in a game with 99% static models)
  • Actually, fuck that, I don't understand how you allow clipping at all, I think it could be trivially fixed based on how their game already works
• Lack of threats could work, if they compensated by making the planet more interesting
  • For the love of God make the landscapes less ugly

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• Resource nodes being unlimited is a bad design
• Conveyor logic leaves a lot to be desired, you shouldn't have to build dedicated mergers/splitters, have it work like road placement does in Cities Skylines or any other game
• Building placement, snapping, and overwriting never seems to work as envisioned, and most build modes don't work a large % of the time
• Graphically the game has two artstyles which do not work together, some stuff feels unfinished by upon reflection I think it was partially a skill issue.
• Music may as well be absent, I have no idea how they didn't put more emphasis on this.

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• This is not a narrative critique, I don't understand the point of the game the majority of the time.
• This is a narrative critique, I don't understand how you whiff on a story this simple, it feels phoned in but also rushed in how it was implemented on-top of the rest of the game, completely disconnected.

idk how much I did it to myself by having expectations or what

but for as much as people have been hyping it up, how many copies it's sold and being in early access for 6 years

it just fell really flat

idk, I'm not trying to argue that people who like it are wrong, I think it's probably different enough from stuff like Subautica, NMS, Starfield, modded minecraft etc. that for people who want that production line thing it's doing, there's nothing exactly like it

but I do think the devs were doing fuck all for the entire development time

I feel like Factorio is way more built around the idea you're meant to fail and restart, so it's quick to get up and running. Once you start to develop some mastery you can start experimenting and having more fun with your designs. the research trees also feel like you're only ever scratching the surface of the game's systems. Satisfactory meanwhile is so slow and "forgiving", it's a slog to get to interesting advancements on the tech tree, at which point you're basically done with the game anyway. There are rarely fulfilling diversions to take on, so you end up just letting time pass to progress. Exploring is unrewarding and while you can better optimizing/expand your production they give you too many precise knobs to turn that idk if you can really get a sense of accomplishment out of 100% efficiency ratings. Aesthetics/decorations are what you're left with, and honestly I just don't think that was a good angle to take.

maybe if they pivoted to making it more of a creative mode sandbox "design an aesthetically pleasing assembly line" rather than a game

Lastly, MP, I cannot think of a reason this game would be fun to play with friends. Every othe game in this genere or adjacent to it (yes even Starfield) I think coudl derrive fun from co-op. This game where there is only ever one thing to really do, no reason to team up, and no reason to divide-and-conquer, I think would be trying on any friendship to play for extended periods of time. Because you're cannibalizing resource access, it also doesn't work as a dedicated server persistent world game, unlike Valheim, Enshrouded, Minecraft, etc.

And I mantain, we should still do MP Factorio at some point, I think there's some fun there in the early game even if you're not super into min-maxing factories

ok spooky i will disagree with you on a couple things

I prefer endless resource nodes, i hated limited resources in factorio. I also prefer having no active threat, i didn't like having to fight the bugs in factorio (i know they cna be turned off but i digress)

yeah, those are the ones I go back and forth on

I'm more open to the lack of threats personally

the resource nodes being unlimited ends up not mattering as much, because you're encouraged to tear down your early game setups anyway and rebuild them when you get better tiers of miners/belts

I think having limited nodes would just encourage this more often, but ig it wouldn't work as well if you want to setup these GIANT megafactories, and due to not being able to clear terrain, dropping blueprints on new locations isn't very fun

despite not having a hostile faction though, there is a LOT of content in the game dedicated to combat tools, restorative items, and organic materials

I get that it's somewhat just to gate how exploration works, but it didn't feel fully developed either way

I do think if they made the world prettier to explore (or added more lore, rare resources, artifacts, or w/e)

then I think having no enemies would work

or only putting the minor ammount of animal mobs they have currently

idk, does that make sense

I think I mostly agree with you though

Spooky, you won't believe this, but I was just listening to a podcast about this topic

question, do you like the fixed map Dialga? where they hand crafted this one map, give 4? different start positions on the map but you eventually build everywhere

lmao Pika

how did you get 10 minutes off that

no idea, it is not very consistant

hahahahahahaha

Pika

that first line

you listened to it right

I am now

post first, listen to after

only 1:30 in

I love these stupid podcasts so much

i hope you are compensating your siblings for the quick turnaround pika

around 5:30 they get very off

this is every one of my deadlock games

whenever someone has less than 1k object damage

they did not play the gmae

Poluposting

Releases 9/18/2024 11:00 AM

looks far more interesting than plucky squire

oh Leg, I played Plucky Squire today

it's a game for actual children

yes

it looks like its for 5 year olds

I was feeling it immediately, wanted to power through to get to the "real game" part

but yeah, the game is for 5 year olds

how much is it

i know i will pirate it

but how much is it

$20 I think

too much

even though its a good deal

Somehow, Plucky Squire was $30

I'm just putting this out there

if you ever see someone say they like that game

indie game shouldnt be over 10

they are mentally handicapped

it's a very good game, but it is literally for toddlers who have never played a game before

Polu sold me on UFO 50 as a concept

idk how substantial it's going to be

UFO 50 will be good

i have no doubts

but it'll probably be solid enough to finish is what I'm expecting

UFO 50 only has local multiplayer, but it does support the remote play together feature

I will play whatever Derek Yu puts out

I assume this game works well on steam deck, but it doesn't seem to have any compatibility rating on the store page

30 bucks is a big oof

I'll wait until its on sale, sure its great though

that's 60 cents per game though

When will the polu plays ufo 50 stream be

3 player quibble race over remote play

Leg did you ever end up trying this game?