games

youd end up with games where everyone

just fucked around

and didnt push

or just kept trying to kill the ancient (when theyre characters that cant backdoor)

i feel like the game length would be 30 mins if everytime everyone pushed lanes

the games seem to end between 40 and 50 minutes

rip

looking at live/just finished games rn

the ones i played where everyone pushed and played like

smart

ended in 30

I think people got better at defending too

eeven if the other teams were good

that too probably

people didnt realize if youre highgroundig vs them and theyre defneinnig

you should just

go push another lane

you have four lanes

because with how fast respawns were

if you push all four

this is a moba shooter?

yes

moba overwatch

oh nevermind about it being TF3 then

its not good

ok Max, stomps seem to be 20-30 minutes

I just know it has at least one TF2 character

which is still slower than LoL surrender at 15

(which dota should have added 10 years ago)

and I'll amend what I said earlier, 35-50 for even-ish game length, with almost none going over 50

the issue is that dota combeacks are very much a possibiltiy if you just play good most of the timeif you have a good team

and dota is full of sucidial third worlders

so the seocnd a game goes bad they just give up

no surrender is to prevent that

I STRONGLY think surrendering is a viable decision

the issue is that you still gert third worlders that go

OHH I LOST LANEEEE

IM GOING TO GO FARM TOP JUNGLE FOR 40 MINS

and just not ever play

if surrender existed, youd get 10x more of that

I just leave

and eat the leavers queue

ik they changed that to be more gay now

well spooky

but I will not play out a lost game

having -1 point under default

behavior score

makes it so you cant chat

I get chat muted for calling people niggers anyway

i believe every game of dota is winnable, but your team has to want to play

I don't

at all

sorry

well extrapolated

let me rephrase

it's not

if they have a cracked

super stomping mid /carry

then yeah its not sure

but people give up WAY too early

just beause they lost lane

when 2/3 lanes are going strong

if you're losing because they're better at you, and have a better team comp

or the enemy has a strong early but bad late

but they're not pushing your shit in

the games drag on for 40-ish minutes

when they're over by 10

yes if its that bad then i undeerstand

but then you end up witht he league mentality

where every league player gives up like instantly

and never tries to comeback

theyre all cucks

and if its not a stomp

theyd ont play

which is gay

I haven't played league in forever ever

but I felt like surrenders were justified like 75-80% of the time

and I didn't mind the enemy team surrendering

when we're up 20-2

and the game is over