games

and I'll amend what I said earlier, 35-50 for even-ish game length, with almost none going over 50

the issue is that dota combeacks are very much a possibiltiy if you just play good most of the timeif you have a good team

and dota is full of sucidial third worlders

so the seocnd a game goes bad they just give up

no surrender is to prevent that

I STRONGLY think surrendering is a viable decision

the issue is that you still gert third worlders that go

OHH I LOST LANEEEE

IM GOING TO GO FARM TOP JUNGLE FOR 40 MINS

and just not ever play

if surrender existed, youd get 10x more of that

Max, you have to understand

I just leave

and eat the leavers queue

ik they changed that to be more gay now

well spooky

but I will not play out a lost game

having -1 point under default

behavior score

makes it so you cant chat

I get chat muted for calling people niggers anyway

i believe every game of dota is winnable, but your team has to want to play

I don't

at all

sorry

well extrapolated

let me rephrase

it's not

if they have a cracked

super stomping mid /carry

then yeah its not sure

but people give up WAY too early

just beause they lost lane

when 2/3 lanes are going strong

if you're losing because they're better at you, and have a better team comp

or the enemy has a strong early but bad late

but they're not pushing your shit in

the games drag on for 40-ish minutes

when they're over by 10

yes if its that bad then i undeerstand

where every league player gives up like instantly

and never tries to comeback

theyre all cucks

and if its not a stomp

theyd ont play

which is gay

I haven't played league in forever ever

but I felt like surrenders were justified like 75-80% of the time

and I didn't mind the enemy team surrendering

when we're up 20-2

and the game is over

Dota is more comebacky, I agree

idk my expierence with dota retard peruvians makes me feel like if surrender existed

but still, there are games you know are lost

people would be way more pussies

and just give up way faster

idk maybe

i think itd have to be @ 30 mins

not like 15

to not impact how people play

but even then i think it would

I feel like the number of people who spaz about losing lane

i have had way too many games where safelaner is a cuck and loses

is already pretty fucking high

and goes and sulks

and i feel like if there was an option to forfit

you would have WAY MORE

people who just play, if they dont stomp lane they give up

repeat

my job as a mid was to go and suck off safe lane when he was losing

its already more than it should be

so he wouldn't quit

team management bby

yeah

thats the smart way to play

unforunately peruvians dont do that

offs are masochists

so they dont' care

idk about your experience

mfw theres 4 on their offlane and its me and my carry trying to survive and mid goes to their offlane to get a kill on the solo offlaner