games

oh it only applies to paid games?

i think it applies to games one can purchase

yes

because youre buying a product

^

I think more games go f2p in just euro

so a subscription mmo would not count

but a paid mmo

i.e. elder scrolls online

instead

would count

if they ever turned off its servers

there is no draft bill language yet, so it's TBD on where the line is because you can argue either way

games sold as a product count, games sold as a service or that are obviously not products are excluded

based on the current proposal language

i think thats fine

IMO

yeah

while it would be cool to force everything to provide support after, i think thats a little fucking outragoues

I think it catches 95% of things

There is no justification for an 80 dollar game to brick in a year

yes

so this law is justified

Foamstars not being free to play is funny if this becomes retroactive

Even without this law, I don't get why more developers don't just do it anyway

I get the publisher incentive not to

but devs not just making their games playable after death always struck me as weird

devs don't love their creations as mucy as they used to

is the answer

depressingly true

developers used to be often connected to the core design process

now they're just fed slop from a team two floors down

or in another building

lol

some developers were literally creative leads

and now we have...

slop

what's funny, is I think the indie scene is almost as bad as the cookie-cutter AAA games are at this point

everything is designed for profit first, and devs are just chasing trends and have zero passion for their game

there are passionate af devs left ofc

and everything else is burried

in a couple years we get all the shitty combat-free metroidvanias

I don't think animal well was a good enough game for it to sell, divorced from Dunkey

maybe people glom on because it sold a ton, and look past that

but that feels like less of a sure thing than the wave of extraction games we're 100% getting

LETHAL COMPANY CLONES YES!!!!

I think I saw a steam page for one

that was a cross between lethal company and overcooked (kinda) where you have to collect and trade for stuff and bring it back to your starting point before resources get depleted

Animal well discourse died really fast (there is not enough reason to talk about it)

thats why we will not see the animal well wave

The game was competent, not worth the price point

Yeah it was a fun game, but def not worth paying that price for

They're doing a RoR2 character reveal 8/8/2024 1:00 PM

new survivor looks ass

What am I even looking at, is that a mobile game MOBA

yes

its also on steam

weird mid-range squishy healer that repurposes a bunch of unfun abilities of other survivors/items

she has a resurect though, so if you want to carry someone it might be good

I think making people do a QTE style input to do abilities is fun. I liked it in HD2

oh, they also confirmed chef

but didn't show him

That's one mod that's consistently always updated quickly, I really don't care about it being official

The stages looked pretty decent, I saw someone in chat say new enemy but im not sure if I got baited or if it was true.

I feel like they're kind of at a creative dead end for items/enemies

I'm down to see what they add

but they tend to overdesign where it's not needed

granted, idk what I even want from ror, I feel pretty done with it

when they do eventually make a ror3, I'll be interested if they take any big risks redesigning things

I'm actually ok with them just copy/pasting items that already exist as moves into kits. The QTE/revive gimmick is neat.

I agree though, I'm done with the game. All I'd really want are dev made levels to add some variety to my loops, but that's about it. Maybe another boss?

In other news

Monster Hunter W showed off their first real weapon today

they're def revealing in reverse order of popularity

great sword ---> heavy blowgun ---> insect glaive ---> gunlance