games

is there an amount of the game that would need to be inaccessible for it to take effect?

i assume that would be decided when people drafted the law

it would apply to all future games sold in the EU

yeah but hes saying like

how much is needed for it to be required

oh

i think if its like, cod for example and you have MP and a story shooter, it wouldnt count

but like an MMO

I think if you have some single player offline gamemode it skirts the regulation

would

like would smash ultimate need a patch because online would be gone

if you have to pay the mmo and its not a sub

no

because it has LAN

and a story

its about games that literally just become ewaste

without online

smash is a complete game without online

same reason like KIU wouldnt count

lol

because offline 3ds servers

tragic but true

I think most of the time, releasing server software and bowing out

is probably the easiest route

yes

rather than a patch

remove online drm check

nontheless it would just be a great law to have to curb the direction we're going

games being always online dogshit

mfw diablo 4 servers go down

would gachas just die entirely?

i hope so

you odnt purchase gacha games

princess connect offline must return

gachas are also entirely single player games for the most part

oh it only applies to paid games?

i think it applies to games one can purchase

yes

because youre buying a product

^

so a subscription mmo would not count

but a paid mmo

i.e. elder scrolls online

instead

would count

if they ever turned off its servers

there is no draft bill language yet, so it's TBD on where the line is because you can argue either way

games sold as a product count, games sold as a service or that are obviously not products are excluded

based on the current proposal language

i think thats fine

IMO

yeah

while it would be cool to force everything to provide support after, i think thats a little fucking outragoues

I think it catches 95% of things

There is no justification for an 80 dollar game to brick in a year

yes

so this law is justified

Foamstars not being free to play is funny if this becomes retroactive

Even without this law, I don't get why more developers don't just do it anyway

I get the publisher incentive not to

but devs not just making their games playable after death always struck me as weird

devs don't love their creations as mucy as they used to

is the answer

depressingly true

developers used to be often connected to the core design process

now they're just fed slop from a team two floors down

or in another building

lol

some developers were literally creative leads

and now we have...

slop

what's funny, is I think the indie scene is almost as bad as the cookie-cutter AAA games are at this point

everything is designed for profit first, and devs are just chasing trends and have zero passion for their game

there are passionate af devs left ofc

because trends hit so hard

and everything else is burried

in a couple years we get all the shitty combat-free metroidvanias

I don't think animal well was a good enough game for it to sell, divorced from Dunkey

maybe people glom on because it sold a ton, and look past that

but that feels like less of a sure thing than the wave of extraction games we're 100% getting