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Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 6:19 PM games

Replying to legorhin #jazardly

looks like the Wind Waker randomizer for archipelago has plenty of features already

Good thing Max is coming back 2 Saturday's ago. She was dropping hints she wanted to do WW rando a few months back

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Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:05 PM games

@legorhin what’s the name of the game you’re playing for archipelago again

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:05 PM games

Link's Awakening

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:05 PM games

Oh I thought you were playing that other game you kept shilling

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:07 PM games

He just tested it for the dry run

Rusp Mar 4, 2024 7:09 PM games

Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak

Good thing Max is coming back 2 Saturday's ago. She was dropping hints she wanted to do WW rando a few months back

This Saturday for sure

Rusp Mar 4, 2024 7:09 PM games

Spooky can't be wrong 3 weeks in a row

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:10 PM games

are you joining the big Archipelago game Rusp?

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:11 PM games

you could rock minecraft/undertale

Rusp Mar 4, 2024 7:11 PM games

Hell no

Rusp Mar 4, 2024 7:11 PM games

Have fun though

Rusp Mar 4, 2024 7:12 PM games

It is basically just the complete opposite of the kind of autism I have

Polar_ Mar 4, 2024 7:19 PM games

Archipelago is a universal randomizer, but your progress is tied to the other players finding randomized stuff right?

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:19 PM games

yes

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:19 PM games

it mixes items across all players

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:20 PM games

my power star in SM64 could be in vinny's OoT mido house

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:20 PM games

etc

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:20 PM games

So like I could find power stars for pika playing sm64, he could find an emblem for polu’s sonic adventure 2, polu could find shit for spooky and so on so forth

Polar_ Mar 4, 2024 7:22 PM games

Ah OK, it reminded me of an old GDQ run that I imagine is the same thing. It was Super Metroid/ALttP . Very cool, are you all choosing a game to run?

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:22 PM games

Thats a little different

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:22 PM games

that mixes the two games, so loading zones go between games

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:23 PM games

and one person plays the full mixed game

Polar_ Mar 4, 2024 7:23 PM games

Ah OK, I see so the collectibles are simply tied across games instead

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:23 PM games

I thought I had found a bunch of compatible extra games through https://github.com/ManualForArchipelago but this is apparently just honor system hand tracking

Manual for Archipelago

Manual for Archipelago has 2 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

github.com

Polar_ Mar 4, 2024 7:24 PM games

Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak

and one person plays the full mixed game

I think I get it now, thanks pika

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:24 PM games

Replying to Polar_ #polar_

Ah OK, I see so the collectibles are simply tied across games instead

your mario 64 star for killing king bobomb could be the master sword

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:25 PM games

No problem

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:27 PM games

I found a series of videos explaining all the hard logic techniques in Awakening so if I ever run out of checks I'll try to sequence break

Polar_ Mar 4, 2024 7:27 PM games

I was thinking it must be extra fun for you Leg since you were doing a lot of OOT tricks before

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:27 PM games

i was doing the really easy tricks

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:28 PM games

It’s very easy to break logic in oot tbf

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:28 PM games

I can do mario 64 16 star, so once I get 2 keys I can just beat my game

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:28 PM games

I could put hard logic on from the start but I have never actually done any of these

Polar_ Mar 4, 2024 7:28 PM games

I've only ever really messed around with SM64 speedrunning, I know OoT is super broken

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:29 PM games

Yeah oot is super broken it’s great

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:30 PM games

i can do backwards desert traversal, navi diving, early zora domain and adult mido skip

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:30 PM games

those are pretty simple

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:30 PM games

I’ve not done reverse desert

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:30 PM games

that one is the hardest

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:31 PM games

the worst part is if you fail the easy stuff you have to do the blind traversal again

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:31 PM games

Yeah…

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:31 PM games

yay save states

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:31 PM games

I can for the most part do the later half

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:31 PM games

It’s the early part that I struggle with

Polar_ Mar 4, 2024 7:31 PM games

Replying to Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil #vinnyg

Yeah oot is super broken it’s great

Yea I used to really enjoy OoT runs, MM is fun too but I've only really watched Enop run it

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:32 PM games

are you interested in joining the archipelago?

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:32 PM games

Replying to Polar_ #polar_

Yea I used to really enjoy OoT runs, MM is fun too but I've only really watched Enop run it

You should watch zfg do mm randomizers then, he gets to show off a lot of variety in tricks cause he plays no logic

Polar_ Mar 4, 2024 7:32 PM games

Replying to legorhin #jazardly

are you interested in joining the archipelago?

I'm forever lurking, but thank you, it seems fun!

Polar_ Mar 4, 2024 7:33 PM games

Replying to Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil #vinnyg

You should watch zfg do mm randomizers then, he gets to show off a lot of variety in tricks cause he plays no logic

Haven't watched him in forever, but it sounds cool I'll check it out

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:33 PM games

I asked xbrox and she said she just wanted to watch

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:34 PM games

If/when we do a second run I have someone who’d wanna play

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:34 PM games

He said he’s too busy rn for it tho

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 7:36 PM games

Leg you weren’t in the server at the time I think but I had a friend of mine join the server temporarily when I did the drinking new years stream at the end of 2022

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:52 PM games

it goes from 30 mins hard logic to 75 min glitch logic to 2 hours hell logic

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 7:56 PM games

hard seems pretty reasonable but of course they are in hard because the tricks are not obvious and make use of some minor glitches

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 7:59 PM games

My PB for 120 star is 5 hours, but I only need 2 keys to beat the game

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:00 PM games

So I can finish mine and relinquish the rest of my items when others start finishing

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:01 PM games

OoT with non crazy settings will be 3-5 hours best case

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:01 PM games

Idk how long polu or Spooky need for their games

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 8:02 PM games

maybe I should turn off keysanity

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:02 PM games

If someone is playing a crazy short game, nothing stopping them from having to play 2 games Kappa

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 8:03 PM games

xbrox floated VVVVVV when i asked her about it which is apparently like 2 hours long and has no progression unlocks without modding them in

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 8:04 PM games

Honestly I’d say pika you should probably try to go with a 70 star run just to not be sitting there bouncing between games

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 8:04 PM games

throw on the movement randomizer so you have actual logic to play around

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:04 PM games

I was going to do 120 until people start finishing

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 8:05 PM games

Ah ok 120 then

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 8:05 PM games

we can hand you a minesweeper slot

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:05 PM games

I was going to do 120 with 1ups and bombs rando'd

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 8:06 PM games

Id also recommend learning canonless so you don’t get stuck waiting on that canon if you randomize those

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:06 PM games

mario 64 will have exactly 1 waiting check

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:06 PM games

thats basement key

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:07 PM games

once I have a single key, I can do everything

legorhin Mar 4, 2024 8:07 PM games

@JaydnMadsen(She)AI Beep Boop another thing that would be nice on the Archipelago website is being able to search Zelda and find all the zelda games not just Zelda 1

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legorhin Mar 4, 2024 8:07 PM games

etc

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:07 PM games

Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak

mario 64 will have exactly 1 waiting check

I figured out the hint too

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 8:07 PM games

Oh good

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:08 PM games

I had to do !hint Progressive Key

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:08 PM games

even though it was suggesting !hint Basement Key

Phijkchu_Cynnydaquil Mar 4, 2024 8:08 PM games

I didn’t realize it was progressive

Phijkchu_Pikachu Mar 4, 2024 8:08 PM games

thats a setting

JaydnMadsen(She)AI Beep Boop Mar 4, 2024 8:08 PM games

Replying to legorhin #jazardly

@JaydnMadsen(She)AI Beep Boop another thing that would be nice on the Archipelago website is being able to search Zelda and find all the zelda games not just Zelda 1

ye that website would be up to core devs

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