lfg

remake

its built from ground up

all new assets

maybe smash was do you know Kappa

okay

what if they change one pixel on every character in smash

different textures

OK, here's a hard one What about when they release a new game, that was just two older games merged together?

not an enhanced port

Like MGQ

port bundle

pokemon platinum

kappa

oh max, I know a better one, is the fe1 part of fe3 a port or a remake Kappa

it uses the fe3 assests and code

so remake

i think my definition of a remake is new assets and perhaps code to replace old ones. A port has to take something else, old things, move it to something else. An enhanced port has to take something else, old things, move it to something else, add a few more things and call it a day.

FE8 is not an enhanced port, because while old parts were reused, the main focus, or one of them was significantly changed.

Where things get hazy are when you have a remake disguised as a port Like Hat in Time or Rocket League for Switch

Ports, that had to be rewritten from the ground up for a new platform

Okay max, is the story mode of smash specifically a port or a sequel

Neither

its a new mode

whoopee doo

whoopdee?

howeveryous ay it

despite being a direct sequel to subspace

yeah but lets ignore that since story is irrelevant leg

have they confirmed that its a direct sequel

Okay pika

what if it wasnt story mode

but a mode thats a challenge mode with a bunch of challenges

there's like 200 challenges

of different types

that seems different than a story mode to me

How so? They're both just different modes to the fighting game

This is a fighting game pika

this is a nintendo party game max

Yes

a nintendo fighting party game

including story

The story is only a way to present the fighting

same as a challenge

Yes, and it is a valid way to present it

So is a challenge

they are no different

now answer my question

if the challenge mode was somehow significantly different than what was previously used, I can consider the challenge mode a sequel to previous challenge modes, if we are to take modes as individual components of the game.

same goes for story

Is the story significantly different though? You have a map, and some challenges, and a loose story on top.

I am willing to agree the fighting mode of the game is more or less an enhanced edition of smash 4 if that makes you happy

yes max

it is significantly different to smash 4

Yet

It's still just a mode

yes max, it is a mode

a mode in which, the only difference is a map, and some story

okay, and?

why does that matter

Because that's not much

because it is a story mode

thus a difference in story is crucial for the story mode to be considered not a port of previous smash story modes

the story mode is not a different entity from the smash game though

it is just another button to reach the stage, another way to meet a means

is it that big of a change to the game

to make it not count as an "enhanced port"

the story mode of smash ultimate is a massive change to the story mode of smash 4 max

yes

in that it actually exists

for starters

It's only a new mode though

another way

Again, and?

to get to that stage and go back to fighting

so how is it that different from 4

And the story of fe 7 and fe8 function the same way, to justify getting back to the turn based stratagy

it is almost like a game frames it story in the game mechanic

Yet theyre a main selling point

they're the focus

that is not what we are arguing