(Not Spooky) Spark Dragon

It’s also a big problem when the teaching colleges and universities are pumping out more and more teachers who have zero ability to handle a classroom and or desire to teach. On top of teaching them wacky teaching strategies that no kid can understand.

Several teachers in the one district when the first day of school starts they “pick out,” one student to basically bully and shit on for the entire year. That kid obviously becomes one of the bottom 15%.

It’s well known they do it but the union protects them and every time the kid acts out for being bullied only furthers the teacher’s view of them being a bottom 15%

There was a substitute who literally slammed an elementary student’s face into a desk and knocked out teeth, who got paid leave and kept their job. The student just stood on top of their desk and told the sub no about something.

That student gets singled out because of the teacher first singling them out. It’s circular and repeated

The sub was the son or related to someone on the school board so it was known when the first news article about it was published that they were going to be fine. Plus the news takes bribes from the school district to keep events like that hush hush.

I can think of 3 - 4 choir / band / orchestra teachers in the past 10 years who have been let go for something similar in my area

Then another dozen in the various other departments

Wack

Says unpaid leave but the district notes said he got paid leave before the story broke in the news

Yea

My mom works at a TPS school so she tells me all the dirt lol

I live like probably 10-15 minutes west of downtown Toledo via express way.

Your like country area

Oof

At least that area is somewhat decent

I think when I posted a picture of a sign in Ann Arbor here a few other people were local too just in Michigan.

To say my point to spooky, if these students become delinquents we really say they get the axe? I think 90% of your bottom tier people come from situations like these.

They are not delinquent or too stupid but a product of a school system that at one point abused them, on top of whatever life situation they have going on.

The sad backstory of someone who cannot function in school is half the problem when people say, “I don’t care,” which is perpetuating the behavior and then they fail. My mom so far in her career singlehanded helped 100+ “delinquents,” who were teenagers still in school not set to graduate to 20-30+ years old get their diploma. Those 100+ people all have some sad backstory and it took one person in the school system to listen but then also enforced a standard. Probably just as many didn’t get their diploma when she worked with them because if they didn’t show to do the work she didn’t help them. With your high standard and importance on education why is it that it takes one person for one school to take extra time and then these people graduate. It’s the failure of teachers constantly in a students life cycle through the system. Then when the teacher fails it takes the administration 10x more work to try and come to a resolution where the teacher isn’t going to listen and can’t be held to a standard themselves. The actual disruption and cases where there is genuine evil from a student should be cut but those cases are ones that already get handled, but state and federal law force some school to take them until a certain point as every kid has the Right to an education. The system being accommodating is something that is enforced from federal law. And school districts want it for the federal funding.

I can agree to the very few cases but realize they are a minority and the general stupidity you see in schools is no different from when you were in school and said ,” I am just using my resources available to me,”

The teachers have become lazy so the students become lazy.

Parents are lazy so their kids are lazy

I’ve heard multiple cases where parents actual told their kid they are going to live off welfare and that will be their living

sometimes for certain special needs students it is more detrimental to them to put them outside of the gen pop of a school classroom. Just like some need that special classroom for teaching but then you have have 100 buildings dedicated to one disability and would waste more resources and bigger strain. How many kids did you know that actively antagonized someone they knew with a disability to set them off in school? I can name a few from my school years, and know every class has those people who make it worse for those kids and makes them get more estranged.

The founding fathers knew some people were slow and still make it a right that they have an equal shot to have an education

They only drag down the others if they let them

Some Non-slaves were less educated than some slaves it all depended on the individual who oversaw them and or guided them

Tons of Americans were educated and not formally educated

And that was made to stop the growing illiteracy and uneducated population of America across all walks of life

The children and fathers working in the industrial factories we just needed to write off if they had a school?

Yes the worthless to them they can pick out. From someone outside they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference

You said to have a pre-prison system for them

You are setting people up to fail

When you can dictate who makes someone a delinquent or someone retarded then you are just the same problem in the school system in a different mask

See you just said when they are enabled to be fuck ups, who is enabling them

You are just bringing back a feudal system, only the smart can attend here and we think your not capeable of higher learning so you stay in this section

You deny the ability of people to move and challenge themselves to become better

If the people who are as smart as you think they are being stuck in a class with someone who is retarded them sorry that person is not challenging themselves

And they don’t get to cry about someone being disrupt

“Omg I can’t learn because Joe doesn’t shut the fuck up,” go read the book and learn if your so smart and learn

The teacher should remove them if they don’t that’s the teachers problem

Dam the five seconds of that kid screaming really stunted my learning potential get over yourself

Every school had that kid and dealt with it

Yeah I like to dehumanize the disabled people for my own enjoyment - garbage

Yea when you have good competent people doing their job it isn’t a problem

You guys are just creating people to be more dependent on the welfare system