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mtcdood rawb
Software and computer engineering are fake professions. If you're not an electrical engineer, your code probably sucks. This is a graybeard joke.
Kribbles rawb
Replying to legorhin #jazardly
software engineering is all about conforming to stupid outdated standards so your code has to suck
I'm already in the move to quit this software developer job
Kribbles rawb
I'm either going to be a research scientist back at my school and hang out with Mint, or I'm going back to the navy and I can say hi to Spooky once a month when I go to DC
legorhin rawb
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131
So instead of getting a Computer Engineering degree, they'd get a Biometric Engineering or Automation degree
at PhD level the degree title means very little anymore
mtcdood rawb
How much of your degree was worthless by the time you graduated? I've heard people say (depends on the degree but) half life is about 2 years.
legorhin rawb
Replying to mtcdood #mtcdood
How much of your degree was worthless by the time you graduated? I've heard people say (depends on the degree but) half life is about 2 years.
none?
mtcdood rawb
Replying to legorhin #jazardly
I would like to go down the professor route, but I would need much better spoken japanese proficiency to stay here
Couldn't you just call that expectation racist or does that not work in Japan?
mtcdood rawb
Replying to legorhin #jazardly
none?
Peepul say computer and electrical engineering is like 3-5 years on the low end, while civil and mechanical engineering are like 15-30 years on the high end. Faster changing industries so you spend more time in continuing ed.
Kribbles rawb
You should always be learning on an engineering job. The degree helps you know the fundamentals so you know where to continue learning.
mtcdood rawb
I don't think that's what I mean. If you need to replace an aging server farm you will have endless arguments about the principles to apply to the decision, because twice a decade new paradigms repudiate the old. Separate storage and compute or HCI, on-prem or cloud, KVM or k8s? With something like civil engineering your parking lot replacement isn't a "throw everything you used to know away" situation. Advancements in technology improve the existing science, they don't dogmatically replace it.
mtcdood rawb
Half life doesn't mean you only learn once every n/2 years. It's the speed at which the value of your knowledge creeps closer to 0.
mint rawb
Replying to mtcdood #mtcdood
How much of your degree was worthless by the time you graduated? I've heard people say (depends on the degree but) half life is about 2 years.
surprisingly for a career which only sometimes requires a degree and cares much more about certifications, connection, etc. and going to a shity university, my degree still super valuable. im also in a computer science related field, cybersecurity. will say the networking and resume building you do in college is just as valuable. i am under certified compared to my peers but leveraged my grass touching experiences (sports, clubs, confrence speeaking, volunteering, etc) and degree to still get the job
mint rawb
Replying to mtcdood #mtcdood
Couldn't you just call that expectation racist or does that not work in Japan?
knowing multiple language is one of the most undersold things in america. once you start looking at big international companies everyone wants you speaking at least two. bummed i did not put more effort in learning languages in middle and highschool when thats much easier
mint rawb
for sure, will say with classes that were in my program, we barely scratched the surface on so many topics compared to what i meed to know in the field. everything else was junk, especially the business major requirements (my program was in the college of business
mint rawb
love an english or math class, but ot was just rehashing highschool level stuff. maybe not a waste of time, but unnecessary. stuff like business organization and stuff was useless and a wast of time. i feel like thats all to be expected with college
mint rawb
you go through hoops for the sake of the sheet of paper, youre not going to be learning useful things in every class
mint rawb
wish that was the case at my school, was too small and general. there was nl way to fill a schedule pf useful classes for every major
mint rawb
everything requiring a degree is a symptom of needing to restrict candidates in tbe current job market, it just an easy way of contributing to that
Kribbles rawb
For me, a degree is teaching you how to learn and having a course on the intricacies of gitlab or docker would be pointless to me because you're missing the fundamentals and just becoming a mindless drone to execute work. And then a master's or phd teaches you autonomy on how to teach yourself how to learn
mint rawb
its totally arbitrary becuase some careers hate foreign degrees, some love them. some will use that to filter people for countries which will be more fine being paid less
CEO of Phijkchu rawb
So I did an apprenticeship in IT instead of going to uni, and its been immensely valuable to have those 4 years of on the job experience instead of gone to uni. Since then I've been able to progress as well, now I'm much more devops/dev rather than sys admin
mtcdood rawb
This full-time, entry-level position will be minimum wage and 32 hours per week. We require a minimum of five years work experience and a bachelors degree. Please provide at least ten references that include no fewer than three previous managers, five college professors, and two of your children. Applicants older than 20 need not apply because you will expect to be valued like a professional and that's just not team spirit.
mint rawb
that was my original plan. practicaly dropped out of high-school by senior year. only took one class, ap compsci. spent most of my time doing a small internship and trade school for IT/sysadmin. hell went to uni as a IT/sysadmin major at first. (an even more useless degree as you like never need a degree in IT) had planned to take A+ and Net+ instead of uni
CEO of Phijkchu rawb
Replying to mint #wimint
that was my original plan. practicaly dropped out of high-school by senior year. only took one class, ap compsci. spent most of my time doing a small internship and trade school for IT/sysadmin. hell went to uni as a IT/sysadmin major at first. (an even more useless degree as you like never need a degree in IT) had planned to take A+ and Net+ instead of uni
+1 for A+, I also did that during my apprenticeship. Did that route work out for you in the end?
mint rawb
well i did the testout pc pro course twice which is an a+ curriculum. also did the net pro course which alligns with net+. got those certs but never did take the comptia exams to get the actual certs
mint rawb
my school got rid of the sysadmin program and migrated everyone in it to the data analytics program. i did not want to do data analytics so switched to cybersecurity becuase my councilor said it was the best and most similar program the school offered
legorhin rawb
Replying to Kribbles #kribbles1
For me, a degree is teaching you how to learn and having a course on the intricacies of gitlab or docker would be pointless to me because you're missing the fundamentals and just becoming a mindless drone to execute work. And then a master's or phd teaches you autonomy on how to teach yourself how to learn
nearly everything i am doing now is self taught over the last few months
Spooky Phijkchu rawb
Replying to Kribbles #kribbles1
I'm either going to be a research scientist back at my school and hang out with Mint, or I'm going back to the navy and I can say hi to Spooky once a month when I go to DC
Or, you let me croot you to work on satellites
Spooky Phijkchu rawb
And agree with everything Mint said, computing is a weird field because if you're not trying to be an actual chip architect, every other degree/program/certification/internship leads to sorta the same nebulous job
Spooky Phijkchu rawb
So you get stuck with this sorta "prove it" mindset until you find yourself somewhere you got into via connections/nepotism, and have a longer leash to actually do stuff
mtcdood rawb
You wanna pay me to sit around, ok. I'll accept the severance package when my role is eliminated in lieu of involuntary termination because I threaten to sue if you don't classify it that way.

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