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but if you want the 1st party stuff, it's $50-$100, the service is $11.99/month, and then games are full-priced

they run youtube at a loss, but it is such an important thing to own

that its worth it

well, they run it at a 'loss'

I am sure they make the difference with selling data

Yeah, they're getting absolutely nothing running Stadia.

Stadia is basically just google throwing money at trying something

Right now, the play they're making is selling and integrating the underlying low-latency tech to other companies

It's pretty much the exact same situation as OnLive, but OnLive at least was an idea that was ahead of its time and made the company money when Sony bought it to convert into PS Now.

I've had game stores go under I used to shop on, before Steam became 100% open to indies

Desura being the one that I lost the most stuff on

but those were mostly $5-$10 games, maybe a $100 all-in

people have sunk hundreds or thousands into Stadia libraries

sold, sold and then went bankrupt, sold and then went bankrupt

good history

I don't think I've actually lost digital games from stores being shut down. The closest I can think of is buying a game that used eLicense, the company shut down and stopped selling, and if you want to install the game on a new computer and register it, you have to contact the company that licensed the eLicense software to the publisher that shut down.

I've lost nintendo wii eshop games, that is the closest thing I have experienced

I used to buy those pack-in games like Plants vs Zombies on a couple storefronts too

Actually this is true; I completely forgot about the Wii Virtual Console and the Wii U eShop, but that's because I put homebrew software on my systems and backed shit up, and can flash shit onto the systems at any time.

I don't care to hack my systems

I like that nintendo stuff has such good ROM/emulation

I can find just about any obscure game I want to, forever

for any Nintendo console

Actually on my Wii I would have to re-do it. I let my brother borrow some old systems years ago when he had cancer and couldn't do anything, and one of his kids ended up doing a factory reset on the Wii.

Yeah, other than some edge cases, like emulating 3DS controls for games like Kid Icarus

nintendo emulation is really good

the availability of the ROMs is also amazing

they're just.... all there

Yeah

As they should be

Honestly, all games that are not being sold should be freely available

Pretty much. If you're not going to let me give you money for a game, then why bitch about it.

When I was doing my stupid rance playing, I learned that alicesoft made a lot of their old games freeware and just released them all, and I wish more companies just did that

Public domain takes way too long, imo.

That reminds me, Robs stupid public domain statement is getting closer

this is actually shocking to me

phijkchu should release urealms live on steam as a standalone game then

:Kappa

the entire world is like this, not just America

Rob made some bs statement that all of his stuff would go public domain in 4 years

during one of his breakdown arcs

<2.5 years!

I'm having trouble if you can even renounce copyright on works in Canada.

of course you can

Rob has no idea how copyright law works, but you can denounce ownership of anything at any time

given you actually own it

Rob doesn't have any formal IP codified anyway

There's a difference between IP and individual works, though

His whole statement was that he'd release assets of everything he's worked on

and consider that releaseing it into the public domain

The individual videos are automatically copyrighted upon creation.

no, they're not

Okay, that's me misunderstanding what he was saying then.

I thought you meant the videos, not the assets.

the videos are not copywritten upon creation YT's creative commons stuff is totally different

I think Rob thinks no one can do anything with his ips unless he tells them they can

I didn't know we were talking strictly Youtube.

https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.htmlhttps://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/cipointernet-internetopic.nsf/eng/wr03719.html I was going based off these.

Dunsparce, I genuinely don't know what you're trying to state

I have no idea, apparently. I read "Rob made some bs statement that all of his stuff would go public domain in 4 years" to mean the videos he's produced, regardless of where they were initially published.

and he can totally do that

he owns no IP from which to do that with though

I agreed with that

so the only interesting change will be him releasing assets, which is seperate from the whole IP in the public domain thing

That's me not being articulate or deliberate enough with my choice of words. I was saying "IP" as different than an "individual work," with an IP being something like Unforgotten Realms, and an individual work being Unforgotten Realms Episode 1.

I can't think of what the correct term for the branding would be.

Unforgotten Realms the cartoon is weird because of the Escapist

ignoring that

Yeah, I just meant to use it as an example

every other thing Rob has made or produced has no formal copyright videos, assets, characters, etc.

if they did, he could at any time opt to nullify that ownership and release it into the public domain

but he doesn't, so nothing legally will change

Can you clear this up for me, then? Or does whatever license that exists on Youtube, Twitch, Newgrounds, Blip, anywhere he's distributed videos override this?

I won't pretend to know that I know the licensing situation of any of those websites, btw.

that first statement is factually incorrect, as a simplification of copyright protection standards

YouTube has a very murky implementation of something similar, their Terms of Service is the first layer and has the same lack of legal authority as other ToS's

They do allow for the uploading of actual copywritten works, and they can extend those protections to their platform

I can only really go based what I'm reading on the links I posted above. The first link is from the US Copyright Office, the second is from the Canadian Intellectual Property Office.