nintendo

Are we talking about expectations from an optimistic perspective, or from a realistic perspective? Because if we look at trends, expectations should rarely be anywhere near as high as people hype games up to be, but not so low that a $60 game should be $20 cheaper.

Cyberpunk, despite it's flaws and terrible bugs

Was worth $60

I disagree.

Mario Tennis

Is not

This is where subjective opinions come into play.

I'd get a lot more fun and playtime out of Mario Tennis than Cyberpunk 2077.

The scope and complexity of the game systems, on top of the amount of content available

I've played 99 cent puzzle games

For hundreds of hours

They're not worth $60

So a game that is large and complex should be more expensive than a game that is simple but much more fun, just because it's large and complex?

Yes

Precisely

It's literally worth more

...

I don't want to compare it to disimilar things

I think games are fairly unique with how to price them

spooky is correct

Board games, music, movies, w/e

The problem is, is there needs to be some standard, otherwise any game can be priced any way.

there is

And the value and enjoyment is different from person to person.

the standard is how much work is put into it

games can be priced any way

fuck having a standard

price whatever you think the game is worth

They should be, games shouldn't have one set price they must cost

pricing based on enjoyment is impossible due to just that

too variable

but suggesting Cyberpunk isnt worth 60 is absurd

So something extremely complicated goes up to costing $300 while Mario Tennis stays $60.

then no one buys the extremem complicated game

they can put the 300 pricetag that no one will buy

If I don't have fun with it, then no, it's not, to ME. This is where SUBJECTIVE vs OBJECTIVE value comes into play.

the only reason people put up with 60 dollar games is every game is 60

if games ranged from 20-80

You can say that, but we're forgetting that most companies are producing games these days that cater to whales.

I dont enjoy cyberpunk either

its definitely worth 60 though

thats not even true

thats true for a handful of games

THATS RIGHT BABY LETS JUSTIFY PARADOX GAMES PRICE STANDARD

lets buy a game

Most massive*

for 500$

lol, Umbreon

True

Sorry, that's my mistake there

only games with lootbox gacha mechanics

which is a minority of games

Hunni Pop is worth 1000

It's about to be a lot more Pika

I bought the artbook + ost for huniepop because I thought it deserved more than I payed

It's very far from just lootbox games.

Princess Connect 2 600$?

We live in a post-genshin world

Farming Sim is priceless

post impact

Five Nights At Freddys is worth 10000

because of the man behind the slaughter

so

how much is mario maker worth

free because we make the game

Amongus is worth like 100000$

amogus

Xenoverse 2, for example, has I think three season passes, with the DLC costing almost twice as much if you don't buy them as passes, with MORE DLC than that, with little being added with each DLC. Civ VI has two expansions that released at I think $40 each, then a season pass for $40. The term "whale" does not have to be the 0.2% of players, just someone who buys a lot more than the base game.

Xenoverse 2 Bopit Boob Simulator 2

If we're talking gacha games, then yes, we're looking at the 0.2%. If we're looking at most games, there are increasing levels of monetization after the game is released.

the margins are not in people buying dlc though for games that have 1-2 dlc packs

because the bulk of the sales, by design, come from the game sales

since not everyone who buys the game buys the dlc

wait you can buy games?

I'll rescind my statement and try to make it more succinct, one moment.

I doubt that