nintendo

i really hope its better than pikmin 3

return to pikmin 2 style

give me long hard dungeons

or theyll do

botw pikmin

kap

since every game is

pikmin would work

botw-clone now

as open world

sonic

pokemon

I still want ice climbers open world

If you want to get into the fucking bullshit, let's look at a game that you pay $60 for, then $30-40 for a season pass for 3-4 pieces of DLC that would individually be $15-20 each, pre-order bonuses to ensure more people buy a game that may not actually be good or have to shell out additional money for the bonus 6 months later, "deluxe edition" bonuses that you always have to buy the deluxe edition for, then they add MORE DLC or ANOTHER season pass further down the line.

anime

what else is bowt clone now

botw*

ubisoft did their own as welll

nintendo does not do a lot of that dunce parse

so I do not deal with that

they usually do 1 dlc pack

still waiting for fire emblem of the wild

(fe4 remake)

I would rather buy an indie game for ten dollars than a 60 dollar triple a game

Agreed. That's why I stopped weighing games on the dollar per hour scale.

Dollar per hour is fine in extremes

2 hour game is not worth 90 dollars

i like to hold replability into account too

but you cant really hold replayability until like

a yar later

year*

Depends on the indie game. I'd rather pay $60 for Bloodborne 2 than $10 for Shower With Your Dad Simulator 2022.

I think triple A games should just be 10-20 dollars cheaper

for most games

yeah

which is why when I see people make the "actually games should really be more expensive" argument I laugh

quality is penis nowadays

I think a lot of games would be considered less shit if they were cheaper

expectations are set by price

If games were 100% complete upon release and there was zero extra monetization, then I might give some credence to that idea.

If I pay 60 dollars for a game it better be contender for game of the year

games should be 100% complete

full stop

But prices as they are? Like, why would they be going down when they've been $50 minimum for console games since the 80s?

because we have higher standards now

either make a game worth 60, or sell it for less

if it is not the best it is the worst

Atari 2600 games in the late 70s/early 80s were released at $20-30. If we account for inflation, let's take 1982 as the year because that's right before the crash, that's $57-86 for a game.

Even if we're not calculating for inflation, I've spent $80 on Nintendo 64 games, MSRP.

I think it is about expectations

Its hard to describe

I have bought mario 64 ever single time it has released, so I have spent like 300 dollars on that game

Elden Ring had the most retarded deluxe edition

minecraft premium

It was $20 for the games's soundtrack

And some concept art

Are we talking about expectations from an optimistic perspective, or from a realistic perspective? Because if we look at trends, expectations should rarely be anywhere near as high as people hype games up to be, but not so low that a $60 game should be $20 cheaper.

Cyberpunk, despite it's flaws and terrible bugs

Was worth $60

I disagree.

Mario Tennis

Is not

This is where subjective opinions come into play.

I'd get a lot more fun and playtime out of Mario Tennis than Cyberpunk 2077.

The scope and complexity of the game systems, on top of the amount of content available

I've played 99 cent puzzle games

For hundreds of hours

They're not worth $60

So a game that is large and complex should be more expensive than a game that is simple but much more fun, just because it's large and complex?

Yes

Precisely

It's literally worth more

...

I don't want to compare it to disimilar things

I think games are fairly unique with how to price them

spooky is correct

Board games, music, movies, w/e

The problem is, is there needs to be some standard, otherwise any game can be priced any way.

there is

And the value and enjoyment is different from person to person.