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Saturday, December 18, 2021
yeah 4e is a wargame, not dnd
or at least in that direction
Replying to Kampfgruppe Kofewalt #zingly yeah 4e is a wargame, not dnd
More like a board game that moves a bit slow than a war game, but pretty much
Replying to Gent #gent_. Fighters be like “yeah, I’m gonna walk 40 miles in heavy plate armor with a long sword and 20 arrows”
A 1st level fighter wearing plate mail, carrying a longsword, bow, and quiver of arrows is going to have at least 15 strength to wear the plate mail, probably has good constitution and at least half-decent dexterity. A 1st level fighter is also SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than a normal human. a 10-11 in 3.x/4e/5e in an ability score gives a +0 modifier, but that's not the average for a normal person.
Replying to Gent #gent_. Rogues be like “I’m going to rob people even though everyone knows what a rogue is and looks like”
Do you only play with people that play complete stereotypes for classes? When I play a rogue, if I'm somewhere safe, I'm wearing normal clothes, or if I'm paranoid, I'll be wearing leather armor with baggy clothing over it. I'm not going to be trying to actively sneak around in a church full of people.
I know this isn't Rob chat, but for all the shitty or stupid stuff Rob has made, he got it pretty right with the bandit thing. Eluamous hides in the bushes, while Schmoopy just tosses his gear in the bushes and puts on the beggar rags, and the bandits just walk past him, cuz he looks like he doesn't got shit on him.
Replying to sudo TPK #sylfar Just because you're a rogue doesn't mean you have to walk around in leather armor all day, twirling daggers, slipping in and out of the shadows throughout town.
very true
people tend to get stuck in fantasy stereotypes, especially movie or tv shit
But isn't the whole point of a roleplaying game to, yknow, roleplay? Like, if you have to trek 40 miles, why would you walk from point A to point B, wearing your full plate armor, sword and board equipped, when you could wear normal clothes, get a couple horses and a cart, and ride there?
there really should be an incentive to be slightly more grounded and have traveling armor and main combat armor
We would always travel as poor pesants with a cart with all the gear in it when we played
with only a sword or two between us, maybe a bow?
the rest all hidden
which is why we would have the monk of the party drive the cart
so he could stop, jump into the back and throw gear at people first chance
Replying to Kampfgruppe Kofewalt #zingly there really should be an incentive to be slightly more grounded and have traveling armor and main combat armor
like leather under bigger robes works to cover that kinda stuff
gnome druids would be fun
with an animal companion he could ride through the woods 😉
Replying to Gent #gent_. Rogue gets shit on a lot for forcing the party into theft but if you can’t do your class shit in combat you don’t have many other opportunities other than pickpocketing a merchant
thats why I only play rogues in a neutral party or evil party.
Replying to Gent #gent_. The thing that actually sucks about rogue is when he’s the only one trying to be stealthy/able to be stealthy
You have to at least try to think as a character, not a person playing a character. If you're in a party with 4 or 5 other people, and you have two people in plate mail or chain mail stomping around, you have to either take point far ahead or fall back way behind, basically to the point you can see them, but if they engage with an enemy, you won't be immediately discovered.
so true
5e rogue is fine in combat
I love to have rogues in the way back, covering the party in darkness most of the time
very buff
5e changed a lot of shit tho
most good party rogues would just be hidden back of the group being an archer
with a dagger or two for backup if needed
Anyway, sorry for all the sperging and rambling. I just hate when shit like this is done when there's absolutely no need for it, and I don't think it ever leads to improved sales of products or anything, so it's completely pointless, especially if, as everyone here is saying, you can just house rule it how you want. (Not to mention that the 5e DMG straight up tells you to house rule whatever you want, however you want)