general

the context for that one is;

shitty wigger rapper tweets out 4 hours before the time randomly "hey meetup at this location", he expected like 50 people to come but like two thsouand people came riots + property damage caused + police had to full mobilize at night with helicopters was fined 100k by police/city

yeah honestly, he should not have been fined

I think that should be legal

this one was in CA though

charge the people who break/vandalize stuff

the issue with that being legal is

you can just create riots

ezpz

and with most riots

not everyone gets arrested

lol

what does freedom to assemble mean than Max?

so cool 1k people cause a riot, and like 100 get arrested

I know freedom to assmble is important

I'm not trying to be a pedantic prick about it

but in the inverse

if you do that

I think if you had no intent to cause a riot, then getting fined is retarded

you just let people create issues

if youre going to create a "meetup" it should be on you to make sure it doesnt go south

They should need to prove in court that he knew/reasonably should've knew it would be the outcome

which is why many influencers hire private security and inform the police BEFOREHAND

to ensure that doesnt happen

it should be on the meetup-creators hand to make sure that its safe

but like, I genuinely think it's bizzare to say "you can't do anything in public over a certain number of people"

IMO

because lots of people == riot

no you should be able to

but you shouldnt be able to without countermeasures

what countermeasures though?

because otherwise, youd literally get tiktokers saying hey lets meetup

and cool instant riots

no fines for them

is saying "be on your best behavior" wnough

repeat 20 times

no, they should do what

arrest the people who riot

every other celebrity

idk what to say

and hires security

they ALL do that

and inform the police

they all do that

its literally a common thing

because its important

because they don't want ot be killed

by weird parasocial fucks

Yeah they don't give a shit about laws

no spooky its not just security for themself

none of them care about """"public order"""

they hire secuirt to contain crowds

as well

big streamers care about money

yeah, so they don't get mobbed

and you dont even pay the police

you literally just

INFORM them

and they go there

no, you have to pay them

appak

not in a lot of cases

lol

Depends on the police

as long as you inform them itll happen

no, they 1000% bill you

I can see NYC jewing them out of cash

theyll show up because 1. police are bored 2. police want to be on hand at these places

for police prescence

if it's more than "I need a token police presence"

did they even know it would happen though, isn't that the part being argued

Yeah, thats the difference for me fire

NYPD has a full "entertainment division"

in this case, I actually think he probably knew better

the guy in NYC 100% did

like Max said

where if they see a gathering happening or see rumors of it

they just send police out there

the other guy probably not so he should not have been charged

to make sure it doesnt get out of hand