general

I have a question, what part of saying "hey I'll be here giving out playstations, come assemble"

is illegal

I thought there was more to it

isnt causing a mass amount of people to gather pretty bad

the little xan guy a few years ago did the same thing

I think the clip max posted could be argued to be evidence that he did this knowing it would cause a problem

beyond what he publically said

and he got charged 100k

btw

little xan did 1 tweet a few hours before

and people showed up and broke shit

and he was charged 100k

it was suppoused to be just signatures

no, now I'm lost again

wdym

im just giving an example of a similarish situation

from a few years ago

why can't you jsut tell people to turn up somewhere

"city resources" is a retarded argument, which is what I'm sure NYC and the NYPD are saying

isnt there laws against causing a bunch of people at the same time to gather without pre-medatating to it/getting premission

im pretty sure there is

you don't/shouldn't need permission to fucking assemble in public

I could believe in NYC at least such a law could exist

^

they'd have to challenge it at a higher court I think

I'm sure there's some city ordinance, that says over a certina size you are required to get NYPD to give your gathering security

but thinking about it more, that seems really fucked from a freedom point of view

I thought the drama was that he was inciting people to break windows for playstations or something

no

idk I think in his case with that specific clip, they could make a reasonable arguement that he intended to cause a riot since he knew that would be the outcome

he had a pre-meditated meetup where he would give stuff out and do signings

I think the other guy max is citing should not have been fined though

clearly I'm wrong on this instance

the context for that one is;

shitty wigger rapper tweets out 4 hours before the time randomly "hey meetup at this location", he expected like 50 people to come but like two thsouand people came riots + property damage caused + police had to full mobilize at night with helicopters was fined 100k by police/city

yeah honestly, he should not have been fined

I think that should be legal

this one was in CA though

charge the people who break/vandalize stuff

the issue with that being legal is

ezpz

and with most riots

not everyone gets arrested

lol

what does freedom to assemble mean than Max?

so cool 1k people cause a riot, and like 100 get arrested

I know freedom to assmble is important

I'm not trying to be a pedantic prick about it

but in the inverse

if you do that

I think if you had no intent to cause a riot, then getting fined is retarded

you just let people create issues

if youre going to create a "meetup" it should be on you to make sure it doesnt go south

They should need to prove in court that he knew/reasonably should've knew it would be the outcome

which is why many influencers hire private security and inform the police BEFOREHAND

to ensure that doesnt happen

it should be on the meetup-creators hand to make sure that its safe

but like, I genuinely think it's bizzare to say "you can't do anything in public over a certain number of people"

IMO

because lots of people == riot

no you should be able to

but you shouldnt be able to without countermeasures

what countermeasures though?

because otherwise, youd literally get tiktokers saying hey lets meetup

and cool instant riots

no fines for them

is saying "be on your best behavior" wnough

repeat 20 times

no, they should do what

arrest the people who riot

every other celebrity

idk what to say

and infelucner does

and hires security

they ALL do that

and inform the police

they all do that

its literally a common thing

because its important

because they don't want ot be killed