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It's funny that they compare it to Fallout

which was a show that went exceedingly far to fit in with the universe, and worked with Bethesda on script input closely

No it didn't, it completely retconned huge aspects of the world

If you mean the Brotherhood of Steel, that's the cannon direction that Bethesda wanted them to take

which; I think is stupid, but that's the lore

Brotherhood and enclave being back, NCR's capital having fallen prior to new vegas, vault tec starting the war and still existing in the current time, ghouls regenning and needing drugs to prevent going feral

The last one I'll give you was probably a stupid show-forced change

The west coast being basically desolate and shitty when all of obsidians games showed it had been largely settled

The whole war origin thing is stupid in the show

but it fit in with the whole direction of Fallout, post F4 and F76

It retcons mr house to being kind of a retard

Also, obviously politically motivated lore change by making it muh megacorps who started the war and not the U.S. and chinese governments

the showrunner's direction to writers and actors was they wanted to create a world, where the average intelligence was 80, and to take that into mind with everything they did

and that is pretty heavily implied to be direction/inspiration from Todd

about how to make the world fun

and imo, that works

My hangup is just calling it accurate

yeah, the more you mentioned

they did change more of some of the semi-recent lore than I remembered

I think they wanted to spite Obsidion too

It can be with Bethesda's support/ideas and still be wildly inaccurate (infact, with Bethesda this is the likely outcome)

I think it feels very Fallout either way

This Yakuza show though....

I'm not counting on it

At least we have the gold standard of game adapatations

borderlands

speaking of Bethesda

Max/Gent, are either of you keeping up with Quakecon?

has anything come out of it

I don't play no boomer shooters

bethesda hates the idea of the wasteland "gettin better"

they dontreally understand the appeal of humanity rebuilding itself

or why 'war never changes' feels good in these scenarios

its because despite humanity falling to the bottom- or crawling its way back up, no matter how high they climb orhow high they fall, war never changes and power changes hands and people move on

but going

WAR NEVER CHANGES EHEHEH NUKE EVERYTHING GONE AGAIN EVERYONMME ALWAYS DIE :DDD

doesnt really fit the theme

their characterization of vault tec is also odd, they failed to udnerstand that vault tec isnt exactly "evil", but bethesda wants it to be MEGA CORPO SUPER EVIL EHEHEHE

without understanding that they aren't meant to be pure evil, more so just sick and twisted in how they treat human lives as experiments, evil yes, but never NUKE DA WORLD FOR MONEY :333

all for the sake of reseach and advancement

I was always under the impression that the only reason they screwed around so much was because they thought the nukings wouldn't happen

i dont even mind that they "started it", because lorewise many of the games do hint that everyone knew it was coming really really soon, even day before

the issue is why they "started it"

but spooky is right tha tthe show is accurate for the direction bethesda wants to take the series

the isuse is that the direction they want to take the series is in a way that contradicts the core identity of what makes fallout good and engaging

as its approximations from a childs perspecrtive about the story and themes, a lack of media literacy that causes the theme to fly over their head

Media literacy 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

i will say frfom what i know of the show though

the BoS is even more of a character assassination

They're like a parody of evangelical christians