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taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:02 PM games

didnt know that one

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:03 PM games

oh also profound capital should be capital of sin

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:03 PM games

which is really interesting

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:04 PM games

Here’s a list of the original names in the dark souls code, it’s......enlightening about the creative process https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AdlhpYFITAGnKVAIBMVverQ_E5m5xA19m0rG0Diyixs/edit#gid=0

Dark Souls - Enemy Names in Game Data / ID List

Sheet1 Model #,AI ID #,Enemy / Character,Name in Data,Notes,Alternate Locations? c1200,120000,Rat,Inunezumi,inu = dog, nezumi = rat, "dograt" c1201,120100,Small Rat,SmallInunezumi c1202,120200,Large Rat,BigInunezumi c1203,120300,Snow Rat,SnowInunezumi c2060,206000,Infested Ghoul (Sword),Ghoul_Sword

docs.google.com

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:05 PM games

I’m pretty sure how it works is they think of an interesting concept, program the enemy/boss, THEN write their lore and give them a name

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:05 PM games

i saw some dev data for ds3 and it's interesting

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:05 PM games

yhorm was in the graves area where gundyr was

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:05 PM games

gundyr was where ocerios was

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:05 PM games

wolnir was in the profaned capital

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:05 PM games

Gundyr was meant to be the king I believe

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:05 PM games

yeah

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:05 PM games

And Sulyvahn was gonna be the final boss

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:06 PM games

yeah that ones also interesting

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:06 PM games

He was named something along the lines of “Old King of the Eclipse”

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:06 PM games

I'm glad he wasn't

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:06 PM games

Honestly, it sounds somewhat better than what we got

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:06 PM games

really?

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:06 PM games

i think soul of cinder is cooler

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:06 PM games

maybe of they made his moveset better

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:06 PM games

Well Sulyvahn went out a little too easy for how integral he was to the plot

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:06 PM games

lkke gave him multiple clones or something

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:07 PM games

and a more interesting moveset

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:07 PM games

also the deacons of the deep are actually bishops

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:07 PM games

I assume the clone thing was added later down the line

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:07 PM games

which is a rank much higher

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:07 PM games

A bit too many bishops

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:07 PM games

the clone thing is really cool

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:07 PM games

because it shows his next ayyackt

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:08 PM games

and sulyvhan is more of a pope than a pontif in japanese but

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:08 PM games

pontiff sounds cooler

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:08 PM games

I think he would’ve been good as a secret boss like gwyndolin was

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:09 PM games

Since they both end up serving as the puppet masters of the plot, they wouldn’t want themselves in the line of fire

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:09 PM games

its weird how he's guarding anor londo at all

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:09 PM games

I don't think he particulat cares about aldrich

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:09 PM games

he just used him to usurp the gods

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:10 PM games

If Aldrich was just a tool for him why is he in front of him

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:10 PM games

yes

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:10 PM games

DS3 is a bit wonky with the lore in general

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:10 PM games

also weird how you're supposed to beat him before

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:10 PM games

his two strongest eyes

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:11 PM games

or dancer atleast

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:11 PM games

i think it'd have better buildup if he was after dancer and vordt maybe even Aldrich

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:12 PM games

Put him in place of dragonslayer armor?

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:12 PM games

that's a lot of hype for one man though

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:13 PM games

I'm not even sure why he cares about stopping the unkindled

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:13 PM games

honestly it shouldn't effect him

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:13 PM games

He just wants power

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:13 PM games

yet he is one of the biggest hinderers of progress

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:13 PM games

And he pretty much succeeded at every goal he had set

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:13 PM games

blocking both exits of lothric castle

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:13 PM games

watching them

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:14 PM games

He believes in the deep doesn’t he?

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:14 PM games

uh

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:14 PM games

im not sure

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:14 PM games

I think he was an archbishop?

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:16 PM games

yeah i think he was

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:16 PM games

that's the lore behind his second sword

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:16 PM games

i think

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:16 PM games

He really went everywhere, except farron

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:16 PM games

born in the painting too

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:18 PM games

Do carthus and farron have any confirmed connections to other parts of the world

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:18 PM games

farron was built on carthus

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:18 PM games

The running theory is that the abyss watchers destroyed carthus, which makes enough sense

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:18 PM games

but no it's unreleated to everything

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:19 PM games

They built a swamp over a desert?

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:19 PM games

uh

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:19 PM games

yes

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:20 PM games

i mean the road of sacrafices is built over farron itself

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:20 PM games

I’ve been meaning to ask, how do you feel about ornstein and smough

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:20 PM games

You know, not being dead

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:21 PM games

dumb but ornsteins storh is cool

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:21 PM games

smough is alibe though?

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:21 PM games

He died to Aldrich

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:21 PM games

In lore

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:21 PM games

o

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:21 PM games

It’s meant to be poetic, cannibal being cannibalized

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:22 PM games

I blame DS2 for the ornstein part

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:22 PM games

aldrich ate too much

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:22 PM games

But the entire first game feels decanonized

taxes Jul 6, 2021 3:23 PM games

something something events repeat

Gent Jul 6, 2021 3:23 PM games

I think that is true, Aldrich was still recovering strength after consuming gwyndolin

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