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taxes May 23, 2021 3:41 PM games

in fo4

Phijkchu_Pikachu May 23, 2021 3:41 PM games

balance wise

taxes May 23, 2021 3:41 PM games

the're literally

taxes May 23, 2021 3:41 PM games

"increase my payment"

taxes May 23, 2021 3:41 PM games

3 times

taxes May 23, 2021 3:42 PM games

If you had an expanded speech system, a perk based more special reliant system would cater more to an "actual RPG"

Gent May 23, 2021 3:42 PM games

Pretty sure you can intimidate/talk people down in a few quests

taxes May 23, 2021 3:42 PM games

Replying to Gent #gent_.

Pretty sure you can intimidate/talk people down in a few quests

Barely any.

taxes May 23, 2021 3:42 PM games

I just replayed fo4

taxes May 23, 2021 3:42 PM games

there's like

taxes May 23, 2021 3:42 PM games

3 quests?

taxes May 23, 2021 3:42 PM games

where it matters

taxes May 23, 2021 3:43 PM games

and for one of them the speech check doesnt matter technically

Gent May 23, 2021 3:43 PM games

Isn't there one for sparing danse

taxes May 23, 2021 3:43 PM games

yes

taxes May 23, 2021 3:43 PM games

thats one

taxes May 23, 2021 3:43 PM games

the other im thinking of is uh

taxes May 23, 2021 3:43 PM games

the settlement with walls

taxes May 23, 2021 3:43 PM games

so forgettable i forgot its name

taxes May 23, 2021 3:43 PM games

Covenant quest

Gent May 23, 2021 3:43 PM games

Institute evacuation?

taxes May 23, 2021 3:44 PM games

and that i think

taxes May 23, 2021 3:44 PM games

are the only actual "useful" speech checks

taxes May 23, 2021 3:44 PM games

and the covenant one you can literally just ignore

taxes May 23, 2021 3:44 PM games

I mean from a RPG pov

taxes May 23, 2021 3:45 PM games

speech checks should be dice rolls

taxes May 23, 2021 3:45 PM games

but they should seed them

taxes May 23, 2021 3:45 PM games

but even if they didnt want to they could of made it perk reliant and made a perk around convcing people, or just made it require certain charisma levels, like cha7 locked option

taxes May 23, 2021 3:45 PM games

which IMO is a much more modern approach than

taxes May 23, 2021 3:45 PM games

charisma 1 speech 100 😎

taxes May 23, 2021 3:47 PM games

Anyways, Settlement building also isn't bad in CONCEPT, but it's fustrating and they should of let you build into walls and given you a lot more freedom- and shouldnt of shoved it down your throat

taxes May 23, 2021 3:47 PM games

There's a lot of good "gameplay" descisions/features

taxes May 23, 2021 3:47 PM games

but it has no story or actual reason to draw you in past that

taxes May 23, 2021 3:48 PM games

even small things are really cool

taxes May 23, 2021 3:48 PM games

like how you have to collect hacking holotapes for overrides for certain machines

taxes May 23, 2021 3:49 PM games

just knowing about robots via a perk gives you a bit, but if you want an override program with special features you have to find an override holotape

taxes May 23, 2021 3:50 PM games

but then you have shit like, needing to pick up everything, uniques are literally useless compared to legendaries, 100000000 power armors in the wild and idk

Gent May 23, 2021 3:50 PM games

Is there any reason they haven't done more with psykers

taxes May 23, 2021 3:50 PM games

dude fallout1 lmao

Gent May 23, 2021 3:50 PM games

I could see it becoming really lame if overdone

Kampfgruppe Kofewalt May 23, 2021 3:51 PM games

yeah, I'd agree with the "good" ideas/features, often poorly implemented/executed

taxes May 23, 2021 3:51 PM games

there's a ton of "clarivoyants" and magic brain power people

taxes May 23, 2021 3:51 PM games

they just arent explicitly called psykers

Gent May 23, 2021 3:51 PM games

Fallout 1 had stuff like pyrokinesis though

taxes May 23, 2021 3:52 PM games

its all mind stuff

taxes May 23, 2021 3:52 PM games

in the later games

taxes May 23, 2021 3:52 PM games

fo3 has the brain that can talk to people in the shrek dlc fonv has the nightkin that see the future

taxes May 23, 2021 3:52 PM games

uhhh

taxes May 23, 2021 3:52 PM games

fo4 has mama murphy

Gent May 23, 2021 3:52 PM games

I'm cool with it remaining a subtle world building feature, but it seems like a whole untapped well

taxes May 23, 2021 3:52 PM games

well

taxes May 23, 2021 3:52 PM games

its not really uh

taxes May 23, 2021 3:53 PM games

its usually related to FEV or radiation

taxes May 23, 2021 3:53 PM games

so its not like itd be that common I guess

taxes May 23, 2021 3:53 PM games

I mean it can definitely be used more

Gent May 23, 2021 3:53 PM games

That's what I thought about power armor, but look at us now

taxes May 23, 2021 3:53 PM games

but the ones in fo1 were SPECIICALLY madeby the master iirc

taxes May 23, 2021 3:53 PM games

so idk

Gent May 23, 2021 3:53 PM games

Also, ghoul players should definitely be a thing

taxes May 23, 2021 3:54 PM games

it would of made sense as an option in

taxes May 23, 2021 3:54 PM games

NV

Rusp May 23, 2021 3:54 PM games

Synth player

taxes May 23, 2021 3:54 PM games

especially since the player character in NV

taxes May 23, 2021 3:54 PM games

is from california

taxes May 23, 2021 3:54 PM games

not NV

Gent May 23, 2021 3:54 PM games

Actually no fuck that, bethesda will just do more civil rights bullshit if they add races to fallout

taxes May 23, 2021 3:54 PM games

Replying to taxes #tzfi

is from california

always thought this was stupid though,

taxes May 23, 2021 3:55 PM games

Replying to Gent #gent_.

Actually no fuck that, bethesda will just do more civil rights bullshit if they add races to fallout

Well, races is what's hopefully stopping them from adding a voiced protagonist to skyrim

taxes May 23, 2021 3:55 PM games

hopefully

taxes May 23, 2021 3:55 PM games

skyrim 2*

Gent May 23, 2021 3:55 PM games

True

Gent May 23, 2021 3:55 PM games

@Rusp They already added a synth player XD

taxes May 23, 2021 3:56 PM games

Nord Orsimer Khajit Imperial Dunmer Breton Redguard Bosmer Argonian Altmer

taxes May 23, 2021 3:56 PM games

male and female for all of those

taxes May 23, 2021 3:56 PM games

no way they do a voiced protag

taxes May 23, 2021 3:57 PM games

then again

taxes May 23, 2021 3:57 PM games

its bethesda

taxes May 23, 2021 3:57 PM games

theyd take pride in that

taxes May 23, 2021 3:57 PM games

if it was anyone else id say its impossible

Gent May 23, 2021 3:57 PM games

Invest all your manpower into something trivial and publish the game before you fixed the spontaneous ragdolling glitch

taxes May 23, 2021 3:58 PM games

but knowing bethesda they might actually get 20 different voice actors for the player character in skyrim 2

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