games

idk about your experience

mfw theres 4 on their offlane and its me and my carry trying to survive and mid goes to their offlane to get a kill on the solo offlaner

:DDD

ive had that happen

more than 3 times

but off laners will try to convince you, that them feeding 10 kills

is actually good for the team

and they're fufilling their role

offs are built diff

a good offlaner should not die

thats kinda your point

youre usually not expected to win vs the safe laner

but you shouldnt FEED to them

just bully them

I feel like mid/jungle have the same mindset offlaners and suports have the same mindset

and safe carries are babies

support should 10000000000% be okay dying

dying as a support means very little as long as youre not doing it in laning

^

laning its actually throwing the entire game

see that opinion

otherw ise you should be feeding yourself as a meat shield

is the oinion of most offlaners

when they're doing bad

they're never at fault

same with supports

a support will never cop to doing bad

by virtue of playing a support

okay but theres a difference between being bad and feeding

and using your life to save your allies constantly

they're a credit to team

by using your glimmer on them instead of yourself

etc.

or forcing them out even though you die

thats why its okay for a late support to die

because the cores dying is worth WAYYY more exp and gold

your mid and your carry should not die, true

but if they do die, they are obviously at fault for doing bad, and they KNOW that

all I'm saying is most supports and offs, don't feel that same way

well i still think it depends

then thats a good death for the off

the value in 1 hero for a bunch of ults is pretty massive

next time you're in a game, and your offlane has died 3 times during laning ask him how he's doing

and he'll say fine, he's got them right where he wants them

well

that mentality is retarded

but dying as off or support can be good, but random deaths are bad

its the contextual deaths

same response if you ask a support (as long as the carry is doing good)

it's why mids and safes get tiled so easily

because they KNOW when they're doing bad

and that it will cost the game

and they just get tilted

over wards, or pings, or callouts, or rotations, or slow TPs, or bad matchups, or bullshit heroes,etc.

everytime they die

supprts/offs, not so much

you should alt click their icon at the top

taht puts in chat

X is respawning in 80 seconds

the best instant tilter

yes

you spam ping that

they go FERAL

some of the voice lines are pretty good too

i love when some retard flames me or is autistic and blaming everyone else

and is stay quiet

and then when he dies alone

spam pinging the respawn timer

it ALWAYS

gets a freakout

but yeah, old school leavers queue was great

before dota got gay in 2021/2022 or whenever

well the gamer queue

is low prio

where you cant even pick your hero

you pick 1 hero from 3

and you dont leave until you win

its very fun

they did force it to be single draft briefly in the past

1/3 is way more fun