games

idk maybe

i think itd have to be @ 30 mins

not like 15

to not impact how people play

but even then i think it would

I feel like the number of people who spaz about losing lane

i have had way too many games where safelaner is a cuck and loses

is already pretty fucking high

and goes and sulks

and i feel like if there was an option to forfit

you would have WAY MORE

people who just play, if they dont stomp lane they give up

repeat

my job as a mid was to go and suck off safe lane when he was losing

its already more than it should be

so he wouldn't quit

team management bby

yeah

thats the smart way to play

unforunately peruvians dont do that

offs are masochists

so they dont' care

idk about your experience

mfw theres 4 on their offlane and its me and my carry trying to survive and mid goes to their offlane to get a kill on the solo offlaner

:DDD

ive had that happen

more than 3 times

but off laners will try to convince you, that them feeding 10 kills

is actually good for the team

and they're fufilling their role

offs are built diff

a good offlaner should not die

thats kinda your point

youre usually not expected to win vs the safe laner

but you shouldnt FEED to them

just bully them

I feel like mid/jungle have the same mindset offlaners and suports have the same mindset

and safe carries are babies

support should 10000000000% be okay dying

dying as a support means very little as long as youre not doing it in laning

laning its actually throwing the entire game

see that opinion

otherw ise you should be feeding yourself as a meat shield

is the oinion of most offlaners

when they're doing bad

they're never at fault

same with supports

a support will never cop to doing bad

by virtue of playing a support

okay but theres a difference between being bad and feeding

and using your life to save your allies constantly

they're a credit to team

by using your glimmer on them instead of yourself

etc.

or forcing them out even though you die

thats why its okay for a late support to die

because the cores dying is worth WAYYY more exp and gold

your mid and your carry should not die, true

but if they do die, they are obviously at fault for doing bad, and they KNOW that

all I'm saying is most supports and offs, don't feel that same way

well i still think it depends

off should feel bad unless them dying was a result of the entire enemy team using their ults on them

then thats a good death for the off

the value in 1 hero for a bunch of ults is pretty massive

next time you're in a game, and your offlane has died 3 times during laning ask him how he's doing

and he'll say fine, he's got them right where he wants them

well

that mentality is retarded

but dying as off or support can be good, but random deaths are bad

its the contextual deaths

same response if you ask a support (as long as the carry is doing good)

it's why mids and safes get tiled so easily

because they KNOW when they're doing bad

and that it will cost the game

and they just get tilted

over wards, or pings, or callouts, or rotations, or slow TPs, or bad matchups, or bullshit heroes,etc.

everytime they die

supprts/offs, not so much

you should alt click their icon at the top

taht puts in chat