games

the past like

5 years

lol

oh that's a cool premise for a game I have never heard of

I wonder if all these hero shooters are going to die when TF3 leaves closed alpha

what game Leg?

he better not mean deadlock

^

i did mean deadlock

i just learned about it today

do you want a key

its not even an alpha anymore really

literally everyone

has a key

^

it hit like 14k people playing it

it was less than 200

when we played

ok Max, is it time to play again

kappa

deadlock

unless theyc hanged the shop system entirely

its bad

it's a neat bad game

builds need a full redesign, i love dota item building but they just need to go full league

and just have it so you know you always buy like the same 2-3 items

for characters

there were no systems that were so cool, I think the game is worth sticking with for Valve imo that's the biggest flaw

every system they did have could still be refined/fixed

its just sloppy

but there's just no "it" factor to push it over the top, other than it being published by Valve/Icefrog

they wanted 6v6, but they wanted to keep the dota "OH MAN MID 1v1s!!!"

but to do that they had to do 4 lanes

which is also SHIT

give up on the epic mid 1v1s

or make it so your mid jungles

appaK

map size, items, heroes, hero roles, game aesthetic, LH mechanics

nothing is straight bad

i think the map size is not an issue length wise (ancient to anceint)

but width wise

and i think 3 lanes would help that a lot...

idk what I want from a hero shooter tbf

OH

Max the one bad thing

game length

inexcusable

its shroter now isnt it

it must be

the reason its long before is people do not know how to finish or push lanes

booting it up to check live games

youd end up with games where everyone

just fucked around

and didnt push

or just kept trying to kill the ancient (when theyre characters that cant backdoor)

i feel like the game length would be 30 mins if everytime everyone pushed lanes

the games seem to end between 40 and 50 minutes

rip

looking at live/just finished games rn

the ones i played where everyone pushed and played like

smart

ended in 30

I think people got better at defending too

eeven if the other teams were good

that too probably

people didnt realize if youre highgroundig vs them and theyre defneinnig

you should just

go push another lane

you have four lanes

because with how fast respawns were

if you push all four

this is a moba shooter?

yes

moba overwatch

oh nevermind about it being TF3 then

its not good

ok Max, stomps seem to be 20-30 minutes

I just know it has at least one TF2 character

which is still slower than LoL surrender at 15