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They kind of fucked TF2 up with the last few years of updates (not that there were many)

TF3 never

it was in a really good state for a long time

I'm still watching that clip

this just looks so unfun

at a fundamental level

Has there been 3D mobas before

to compare this to

I know there has been both types of 2D (platformer and top down)

I guess smite kind of, but I do not really classify that as the same kind of game as this

I dont see how they can make the third person gunplay work with towers. Wouldnt you just snipe the towers from far away? And would the "creeps" even matter when you have so much mobility and all these guns? Although it seems like the guns from that clip max posted are weak as shit

shitty game and I hope it crashes

if RFK wins, can we kill redditors please

That monster he kills for the unbound is so goofy

just sitting there doing nothing

mobas require you to have creeps push towers to damage them, otherwise they get super regen

iirc, Paragon also just gave towers loads of out-of-combat regen

well first of all hit the damn ping button you coward. Second of all I think this game is shit and you should all stop giving it attention and just let it die in obscurity

Battleborn was somewhat a moba-fps

The last hitting mechanic is pretty bad

it's weird to want to be a moba rn

i just cant get behind the idea of having to FLICKSHOT

to CS

that genuinely sounds so unfun

if hipfire is accurate it could be okay

but i doubt hipfire is accurate

if they made it so the "soul" didnt float up but the creep was immortal for like .5s

and then you could claim the soul

thatd be better

i know its me complaining about "needing more skill" but its more of a thing of fun

its like finding aimlabs trickshots fun

headshotting a creep gives 1.0xp, other ways to kill it give 0.8xo

reward accuracy but make it less cancer

idk if that's good either

but it's better than the dumb souls

the distance from creep head to soul isnt that bad, but i dont think the system sounds fun. I wonder if the breakables around the map respawn or if the items are just there for the start

Best accuracy person on the team gets a 1.05x XP multiplier at all times, worse gets 0.95x

it still would require you to flick

its that in high level play/laning against someone whos really good at flicking

its impossible

its purely a speed contest of flicking your mouse up and down

CSing in most mobas requires skill as in controlling your creep aggro, moving the lane around, using spells to secure the ranged creep, knowing how much damage you do so you dont miss

its more so game knowledge and contextual skill with the game

rather than

FLICKSHOTS LFG!!!

It floats to around head level, i'd imagine youd have to play around site lines in some way to manipulate it. I get your point though

thats the difference

creep dies, and spawns small target above its head you must race to shoot

its not a big one

Also didnt that one character have a flamethrower? how does that work

but

thats how far it is

like with last hitting

i mean im sure its more difficult when youre like laning 2v2

im sure the supports job is just to do denies

i imagine

but 1v1 its just a flick off

meanwhile like a dota 1v1 mid is a lot more nuanced

(though not anymore after that oracle change)

Yea I'm interested in seeing actual gameplay at some point, because even for an alpha some of the mechanics sound scuffed. I'm interested in how a laning phase plays out but im not hopeful that this game will be good.

I mean, not to over-praise but Valve doesn't really miss. I think it will be great

Valve has plenty of misses

But Dane, they only make what they want to make and they only want to make stuff that's genuinely good.

fuck you nigger im going to sleep and I expect you to write a 500 word essay and why you're wrong by the time im awake

good night sir

With valve's great sense of priorities and polish, this game will probably be great.

https://x.com/atari/status/1793616648890470410 wait Spooky

The Amico is coming???

The specifically bought everything but the amico

I'm positive on WuWa overall, The explorations/puzzles are on-par with the best parts of Genshin, traversal is also better The combat feels more action-y, but I'm not convinced now that it's any deeper than Genshin's Enemy variety is better, bosses are much better, dungeons are better 3-character teams are a negative, and the pokemon are a mixed bag Even as someone who likes the over-designed style they're going for, they don't come across the best, might just be a reality of the engine/graphics Story is probably on-par with early Genshin, but something about the cutscenes makes it feel slower, needs a 1.5x speed unirronically Music is worse, VA work is scuffed in parts The lack (or holding back) of a bunch of stuff and QoL systems that are in Genshin feels really bad, feels like a smaller initial cast than Genshihn, which means the story has a lot of lame filler NPCs and less to be excited about

It also just... is Genshin

in a weird way that has made me realize that whatever shadow company builds the engine for these games is the actual power player

Mihoyo and KuroGames have a much easier job than I initially thought

I don't get the feeling of cutscenes being slow that you do spooky, and idk what the english VA is like lol. i just default to JP voice acting even though it doesnt match the subtitles because i am just so used to english VA for non-english native stuff being really flat

what do you think about party size?