games

and games would go on for 80+ minutes regularly

skill trees were a system to give late game power benefits, that would be the push you needed to end a game

Neutral items as well, yeah they're relevent all game

but when it comes to pushing high ground, the team that is able to get their T5 neutral items gets a huge power boost to make that final push

yeah, the systems are well thought out, in that they aren't just buttons you click 70 minutes into the game, the system is semi-relevent all game, you pick your talents, you use lower tier neutral items

but the systems solve the late game being stale

aghs shards, innates, and facets just add more complexity that imo was uneeded

beyond scouting what the other team picked, it's just another layer of character skills to be aware of

with a lot of weird/goofy interactions

"oh hey, oracle now knows all future rune spawns" "oh hey, Dawnbreaker now gets to reveal the entire map every 12 minutes" "oh hey, Nyx is now a true sight ward"

Yea, I know you can simply hover over them anytime pregame and in the match. It's just like you said though, it's an unneeded layer of complexity. I've had some LoL Vangaurd refugees ask me about playing Dota, and this update I'm sure makes it a bit more daunting for them.

I don't think it's every character, but there are now skills that have potentially 4-5 different varients

depending on aghs/shards/talents/facets

and yeah, you can figure it out in the match and settle in

but I don't think that's fun

When do pros play the new patch? I'm assuming there's at least a months grace period or something, but I'd like to see how this plays out for people who are very good.

no, I think right now

dude what lmao

I thought there was a SEA tournament going on rn

that's the way it used to be at least

Valve would hold patches back for big tournements

but they wouldn't maintain multiple versions

so if there's a tourney now, they're playing on 7.36

I would say that's crazy, but its not that out there. Dota has, imo, always suffered from TI feeling like the only tournament that mattered. Summits were for fun/community.

GUYS FARMING SIM 22 IS FREEE ON EPIC GAMES SO NOW EVERYONE CAN JOIN ME PLAYING IT!

can you fuck up farming in these games Mini?

I remember you showing off your farm from FS19 I think

Yes, you can let your crops die

22

I feel like it was longer ago than that though

it was a multi-hour walkthrough of everything

It was 22 because in my queen video it was 2021

It was 20 minutes

oh ok, nvm

I assumed 22 came out in 22

Late 21

November 21

That’s the video for everyone that hasn’t watched it

oh God

uh

ik I said I disliked the style before

but this is somehow worse

so yeh this is really really gay

Is that assassin's creed

i actually

think

That is footage of Neon Prime

now

that risk of rain 2

is the reason this game exists

100%

the reason its third person

the reason for everything

is ror2

im certain

it lines up well too

Such a strange looking game

now listen, gegagedigedagedago, imagine posting all of that in one or two messages instead of 20

third person hero based game that uses items, they tried a similar art style too

This is what the game looked like before they changed to deadlock, so this isn't what we will be getting.

shut up nigger

yes

No

not you

dane

sorry garbage

love u bbgirl

That's it I am calling pirate

you cant tell me

this + char design

isnt ror2 inspired

this looks more developed than the last one, design wise

and it's worse

Max, that and the UI

im certain that ror2s popularity

made them decide oh yeah third person action games are popular

and how like adhd the movement can get?