anime

Yes, fuck disney also

Some things can only be made or sold online

But disney's exploiting the rules

nothing should have intelectual property ever

It's just unfairly enforced laws

if someone else can make your product better then you then get better

Rusp, I think there are plenty of ways to make money off digital goods, but I think digital media cannot reasonably be worth anything

music dlc

Pika, can you sell me your moody bidoof album?

you have to pay to add instruments to your soundcloud song

can you?

Get me tired enough I will do covers of all the songs

and sell it to you

I feel like you'd buy it

put that aside, you have legally purchased Rob's music album off band camp

He did?

you have a zipped folder of all his songs

what is that worth

1 cent per bit

It's worth a kick in the balls

Rob's still selling it I assume, it's still available for $10 on bandcamp (I'm not checking rn)

can you sell your folder of songs for $10 Pika?

if you pinky-promise to delete your copy afterwards

he is and its 5CAD

ok, replace $10 with $5

same question

does that folder of music have any worth

no

That's what I can't get over, call it a simple-minded view of the internet or whatever

but if digital content, which can be stored and reproduced for free, infinitely has no value, can't be resold, can't be repurposed, can't be anything

maybe this thinking breaks everything, idk

It does

If everyone thought like that internet commerce would not exist

does the file hold value if say I am the only person in the world who owns a digital copy of the album, and I offer to sell you a copy of my digital goods for 5 dollars

would you download a car rusp?

there are ways to make it work, but by in large I agree Rusp

people wouldn't adapt fast enough

I would download a car

I would totally download a car

correct answer

downloaded

I own this car now

NO

LET GO OF THE GIRL

I think the solution to digital goods is collectively everyone has to pay a certain amount before the file is released

then it is free

interesting, I like it

neat idea

because my thought experiment you did not respond to made me think

obviously if only 1 person has a digital copy, it has value if you want to sell access

so if you force people to collectively pay say, 500k, before you release it

then it holds value until released

so kickstarter

yes

kickstarter

but the product is actually released

product is done, you hold consumers at gunpoint to use it

Kickstarter is a shit system 90% of the time

I don't think a majority of people agree with me

I'm aware of that

I understand where you are coming from

What I've gathered from all this is that spooky got busted for downloading 50k gb of cp and wants to justify it to us

I just think it is a necessary evil that digital goods cost money since we have no better system in place

But the entirety of human knowledge is stored online the entirety of our collective culture, our art, our media, our ideas, and whatever other bullshit catch-alls fit here I think it's crazy the amount of paywalling that goes on, but I realize that it's the system we have now,

and I also think there is no moral or ethical reason not to steal said content

as I said, I am a staunch supporter of the idea that a service that is good will be payed for

as long as the service is better then the alternative (piracy)

I think digital media is a battle I'm on the wrong side of, even though it's what I believe

intelectual property however

that shit's fucked

fuck intelectual property

^

fuck patents, fuck IPs, fuck trademarks, fuck it all

Intelecutal property though, that's good shit

yeah

I think the solution we should come to is banning the creation of new things

and make all old things public domain

I think we should create more legal bullshit to inconvenience you

legal bullshit already does not inconvenience me

so