anime

https://www.alexmooreactor.com/about read this about page and cringe

If he says something sensible it's incidental

Rusp, I don't get how it can have value,

You only think this because you're talking about modern anime, which has zero value

ok, let's not talk anime then

I don;t think digital music has value in and of itself, I think paying for digital albums on bandcamp or wherever is insane

Spotify, Pandora, etc. add vaue through their cataloging of music

>not buying the moody bidoofs album

and the apps they keep updated

See, I don't give two shits if you pirate something, but if everyone did it the creators would be fucked over

Pretty much

I can monetarily support an artist/band I like, but paying for digital reproductions of your work

doesn't make sense to me personally

This is what's called prisoner's dilemma, right

you say that, but I think I spend more money on games/music/anime than anyone here

Because you’re one of like 2 people out of school

I pirate a shitload of games, I don't buy them out of some moral obligation, I buy them when Steam adds value I spend money on music streaming because it adds value, etc.

you also drop 5k in dogecoin for a meme

Because you're 57 years old

you are not the virtue of economic sensibility

I can't fundementally get on board with charging for digital access to digital goods

First they get you to agree with them a little

Then they start arguing for legal cp

"it's just digital media guys, it has no inherent impact on the world"

do you not hold similar views on trademarks and intelectual property Gent?

I suspect you think 70 years is bullshit

Not really, I hate the chinese

I just think it’s stupid to make all digital goods as valueless

Yes, fuck disney also

Some things can only be made or sold online

But disney's exploiting the rules

nothing should have intelectual property ever

It's just unfairly enforced laws

if someone else can make your product better then you then get better

Rusp, I think there are plenty of ways to make money off digital goods, but I think digital media cannot reasonably be worth anything

music dlc

Pika, can you sell me your moody bidoof album?

you have to pay to add instruments to your soundcloud song

can you?

Get me tired enough I will do covers of all the songs

I feel like you'd buy it

put that aside, you have legally purchased Rob's music album off band camp

He did?

you have a zipped folder of all his songs

what is that worth

1 cent per bit

It's worth a kick in the balls

Rob's still selling it I assume, it's still available for $10 on bandcamp (I'm not checking rn)

can you sell your folder of songs for $10 Pika?

if you pinky-promise to delete your copy afterwards

he is and its 5CAD

ok, replace $10 with $5

same question

does that folder of music have any worth

no

That's what I can't get over, call it a simple-minded view of the internet or whatever

but if digital content, which can be stored and reproduced for free, infinitely has no value, can't be resold, can't be repurposed, can't be anything

maybe this thinking breaks everything, idk

It does

If everyone thought like that internet commerce would not exist

does the file hold value if say I am the only person in the world who owns a digital copy of the album, and I offer to sell you a copy of my digital goods for 5 dollars

would you download a car rusp?

there are ways to make it work, but by in large I agree Rusp

people wouldn't adapt fast enough

I would download a car

I would totally download a car

correct answer

downloaded

I own this car now

NO

LET GO OF THE GIRL

I think the solution to digital goods is collectively everyone has to pay a certain amount before the file is released

then it is free

interesting, I like it

neat idea

because my thought experiment you did not respond to made me think

obviously if only 1 person has a digital copy, it has value if you want to sell access

so if you force people to collectively pay say, 500k, before you release it

then it holds value until released