general

also, when were these building even named? would you really consider it to be legacy/history if these were even named after the civil war and such? like in the early 1920s and such

yes conour

who cares about the geneva conventions

why is that a question

I think geneva convention stuff is a meme

If they were named today they should still be defended

it’s just more pointless government telling us what to do

If it's something not even built yet, just named, it should still be defended

but kowtowing to the whim of a mob is a dumb rationale for doing anything

How dare you insult democracy!

so many people don’t realize that the civil was was much more than slavery

So that's how you spell "kowtow" huh

it was mainly about slavery.

lol

apparently

Not even close

I was thinking cow-toe at first

there was such a divide between the north and south

Conour, honest question

what caused the American civil war of 1861

I'll concede it was mainly about slavery if you concede the Democrats were and always have been the party of slavery

The whole slavery narrative is extremely tiring

And fuck off mr "dems are the real racists"

i had to write my final for college history on what caused the civil war

didnt the platforms of the parties switch in the 1960s?

I don't even care if it's technically true

no

im pretty sure they idd

the states changed who they were voting for because the blacks got to vote for once

It's more complicated than a "party swap" but they changed in a sense

there were no policy flips

it's not a one word answer, is my point, it's a super nuanced answer, which is why the history meme is it's "slavery" for 3rd graders

i think spooky meant 1861

whoops

yeah

policy flipping doesn't even make sense if you think about it for more than 3 seconds

my history professor spent like 2 hours ranting about how people saying slavery was the cause of the civil war

there was 1 instance of flipping parties that I have heard of and that was the guy legitimately changing his mind

now i didnt say that slavery was the only cause for the civil war, but it was a pretty significant part of it

Frankly, more complicated than I'm able to handle

Conour, I'm not being pedantic, but I think that's missing the point

slavery was a huge fucking deal

and is to this day

yes, it was

where am i wrong in that statement

?

that doenst say that its the only reason bro lol

the entire statement

abe lincoln released the slaves as a war move to win the war, not because he wanted to

thats all i didnt read anything anyone said

goodbye

we care about such a small subset of slavery and focus on it to no end, as if it is the greatest sin imaginable when it's just how the world worked for hundreds and hundreds of years

how does bio keep managing to make already shitty convos worse

lol, he wanted to send them all to liberia

I just don't understand the position people take on the civil war

other than a "fuck the South" position, that liberals seem to take

the same liberals who think there are 5 inhabitable cities in America

I get that one

if you're an elitist prick

that's the only position I understand

so why did a war break out after secession? Thats what I care about more than the reason they left

because you can't let half of your country walk away

popular sovreignty is a meme

Lincoln SHOULD have waged war on us

Yes, that's the problem

i love how you always say us like you were there

Looking at it in the most bare bones sense, do you think it's okay if a section of your country believes their values aren't properly represented and wanted to self-govern?

I consider myself a Virginian, before an American

OK I couldn't remember who started the war itself. It was the South who attacked first at Sumter

Gent, I don't I believe in strong, large, devolved states I think federations work

No, I agree

fire what was i saying that was shitty

I think the US should be as big as possible, and devolve as much power as they can ddown to the state level

America probably wouldn't be the world power it is today if we allowed them to secede

Man