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Rex Bot Jun 16, 2016 11:55 PM general

just because this came up on game theory

legorhin Jun 16, 2016 11:56 PM general

http://idebate.org/debatabase/debates/philosophy/house-would-kill-one-save-many

Imagine that one day you come across five people in immediate and mortal peril.  You and you alone can save them, but doing so will kill one other person.  For instance, five people may be i

idebate.org

Rex Bot Jun 16, 2016 11:57 PM general

I dont think there is a right answer to this, I think my teacher is just curious

legorhin Jun 16, 2016 11:58 PM general

say "scream at the idiots on the train tracks to get off"

Rex Bot Jun 16, 2016 11:58 PM general

"100% sure that this is the only way their lives can be saved. "

legorhin Jun 16, 2016 11:58 PM general

that way you made an attemp to save lives without actively killing another person

Rex Bot Jun 16, 2016 11:58 PM general

but

Rex Bot Jun 16, 2016 11:58 PM general

you are 100% sure this will not work

legorhin Jun 16, 2016 11:58 PM general

so

Rex Bot Jun 16, 2016 11:59 PM general

meh

legorhin Jun 16, 2016 11:59 PM general

100% sure this is the only way to save ALL of their lives

Rex Bot Jun 16, 2016 11:59 PM general

no

legorhin Jun 16, 2016 11:59 PM general

and absolutes are impossible

Rex Bot Jun 16, 2016 11:59 PM general

well

Rex Bot Jun 16, 2016 11:59 PM general

in this hypothetical universe

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:00 AM general

it is physically impossible to save both the fat guy and the 5 people

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:00 AM general

it would be weight-ist to kil the fat man

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:01 AM general

yes but it would be weightist to not save the 5 not fat people Kappa

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 12:01 AM general

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:01 AM general

the act of making a decision based on weight is weightist

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:02 AM general

you should totally justify killing the fat man because he is clearly going to die of a heart attack soon anyway

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:02 AM general

no he is working on getting better

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:02 AM general

he has made great progress

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:02 AM general

and he has a wife and children

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:03 AM general

cool

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:03 AM general

throw them under the bus too

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:03 AM general

and holds a very important position

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:03 AM general

but so do all of the 5 others

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:03 AM general

there is no solution

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:03 AM general

jump in front of the train yourself

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:03 AM general

commit sudoku

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:03 AM general

exactly

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:04 AM general

screw the rules

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 12:04 AM general

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:04 AM general

debates like this are more fun if you make up more solutions

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:04 AM general

pretend to be the victum and claim you coudlent do anything because of ptsd

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:04 AM general

Keepo

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 12:04 AM general

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:05 AM general

too bad they put in "100% sure that this is the only way their lives can be saved. "

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:05 AM general

mc clearly has no immagination

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 12:05 AM general

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legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:07 AM general

wait for the train to go by then push the fat man

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:07 AM general

hope he dies from falling

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:07 AM general

Everyone loses!

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:07 AM general

then sudoku yourself

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:07 AM general

yup

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:07 AM general

you forgot that part

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:07 AM general

not necessary

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:08 AM general

you just solved a massive debate by creating a third outcome

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:08 AM general

you can live

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:08 AM general

yeah you could

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:08 AM general

or even

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:09 AM general

just sudoku the world

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:09 AM general

because why not

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:09 AM general

erase all of mankind so no one will know

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:09 AM general

Kappa

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 12:09 AM general

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:12 AM general

this solution would fit both the Nihilist and the Solipsist philosophies

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:12 AM general

definitely more the Solipsist

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:12 AM general

what about the femenist philosophy?

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:12 AM general

Kappa

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 12:12 AM general

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:13 AM general

if there's one female in the five kill the man

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:13 AM general

if not, kill everyone

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:13 AM general

what if the fat man identifies as gender neutral Kappa

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 12:13 AM general

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:13 AM general

if he's white kill him

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:14 AM general

what if they are all white and all idenitfy as gender neutral gays Keepo

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 12:14 AM general

Rex Bot Jun 17, 2016 12:14 AM general

Keepo

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 12:14 AM general

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 12:14 AM general

they'll be killed by muslim immigrants anyway, so lets just silence them on twitter

paladin Jun 17, 2016 12:31 AM general

irwin

paladin Jun 17, 2016 12:31 AM general

was part of isis

paladin Jun 17, 2016 12:32 AM general

Sprichst du Deutsch

paladin Jun 17, 2016 12:32 AM general

Alle Hagel der fuhrer

❄Serperior🍃 Jun 17, 2016 3:27 AM general

i am snek

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 3:27 AM general

❄Serperior🍃 Jun 17, 2016 3:27 AM general

not that snek

JustinTrudeau Jun 17, 2016 3:27 AM general

legorhin Jun 17, 2016 8:39 AM general

paladin clearly doesn't speak german

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