lfg

Dialga, do you not see the difference, honestly

what dialga

Smash 4 had 58 characters, they reused those characters models attacks and assumingly animations, maybe tweaking values, making it be 16 characters that had too be animated and etc. Smash 4 had 55 stages, they made around 50 more for ultimate then. Add on adding "stickers" back. Add on small balance changes. Add on a "story mode". 16 "new "characters MADE. 50~ stages Stickers Story mode Small gameplay tweaks and visual additions Useless assist trophies and items

Dialga how do you not understand what a port is

I do know what a port is

this is actually autistic https://i.imgur.com/FoqqiB3.png

Max, Pika fundamentally disagrees for the record, going by his remarks on Maro 64 DS

^

I just do not agree with that definition of port

I think you're wrong Pika for the record, but no amount of arguing will change that

adding enhanced to the word port just makes me question to what degree is something still a port and not a remake

but

a remake usually shares like no assets

lol

I think there needs to exist something when discussing sequels, that's between a roster update (like sports games get) and a true sequel

I don't think ultimate is a remake either for the record

good

I can see Mario 64 DS as a remake due to that its entirely different with the textures and etc. being new assets maybe

sort of

maybe

but ultimate, almost all the characters are just ported over from wii u

I still consider 64 to be a port

I also agree spooky that there needs to be an inbetween for roster update and true sequel, I just disagree with where you two are drawing the limit

i think i would not count it as a port if everything was newer

but its too much like an "enhanced port"

plus, thats nintendo's design model

if smash ultimate was just new characters than 100% I would agree it was a port

they do it ALL THE TIME

where do you draw the line then pika

is bowsers inside for 3ds a port

since it has a new mode

I would not know

I have not played it or the origonal

is the new mode important

It's a second campaign, like DLC in a lot of ways

so its if it is important to you?

yes, do note that everyone here is being subjective

including me

so

it would be a port

if smash did not have a new single player, I would be more willing to accept it as a port

yes

because singleplayer is a major part of the game

as it is packaged

not for smash

Pika

yes for smash

yes it is

its not a "selling point"

Did you not look at the site

FFS

no its not

look at the fucking site

I did spooky

it's 100% a selling point

Nintendo markets shit strangely all the time

That's such a cop-out

but it's true spooky

Nintendo is marketing the game based on the new additions

The extra modes are just window dressing for the meat of the game

yeah, I guess, then I disagree with how nintendo is marketing the game

It's a fighting game

The story, is not a selling point, its a MODE

its not even the biggest button

clear proof kappa

And for the record https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/howtoplay/technique.html

but appak

These are the mechanical changes they highlight

it is a selling point, just not the main selling point

okay, so that makes it not a port?

okay what if

mario kart added a story mode

but it was a side thing

not that important, but just something there

if mario kart hd had sufficiently new content I would be willing to not consider it a port yes

not "suffciently new content"

a story mode

Then I would consider it more of a remaster

Let me use an example of what a port is max. The Hyperdimension neptunia games were PORTED to PC with the only change being including the DLC for free. otherwise the games are the exact same