lfg

Story is important to me for smash

maybe it is not for you, but it is a big deal for me

Smash has a story MODE, not a story Pika

There's a difference

it has lore

yeah, every fighting game has "lore"

Well, to be fair, according to the last direct. It's the same "lore" it's always had

Subspace and now world of light can be considered story

toys came to life and started fighting

but the story isnt the main focus

It's a story mode

it doesn't need to be the main focus

the toys coming to life is just a setting

I am just going to have to disagree with you two. I do not define port the way you two seem to

It stands on it's own, separate from the main part of the game

All I'm saying, is if you define a port as being a directly iterative sequel Between a roster update and an actual sequel

Then Smash 5 is a port

a port is the same game being PORTED to a new platform

smash 5 is not the same game, technically speaking

"enhanced port"

Not the way Nintendo has done it for wiiU games Dialga

They take the game, add something, then re-release it

and I don't. To qualify as a port for me it needs to be the same game with almost nothing being changed. Enough is different for me to qualify it as a new game.

Bowsers Inside Story is getting an enhanced port to 3DS

It's getting a seperate, story campaign, in addition to tweaking the original main game mode

every Pokemon game is a port then. and so is every legend of zelda game. maybe every kirby game?

I don't for example count mario 64 ds as a port, it is a remake

all ports, max?

Dialga, do you not see the difference, honestly

what dialga

Smash 4 had 58 characters, they reused those characters models attacks and assumingly animations, maybe tweaking values, making it be 16 characters that had too be animated and etc. Smash 4 had 55 stages, they made around 50 more for ultimate then. Add on adding "stickers" back. Add on small balance changes. Add on a "story mode". 16 "new "characters MADE. 50~ stages Stickers Story mode Small gameplay tweaks and visual additions Useless assist trophies and items

Dialga how do you not understand what a port is

I do know what a port is

this is actually autistic https://i.imgur.com/FoqqiB3.png

Max, Pika fundamentally disagrees for the record, going by his remarks on Maro 64 DS

^

I just do not agree with that definition of port

I think you're wrong Pika for the record, but no amount of arguing will change that

adding enhanced to the word port just makes me question to what degree is something still a port and not a remake

but

lol

I think there needs to exist something when discussing sequels, that's between a roster update (like sports games get) and a true sequel

I don't think ultimate is a remake either for the record

good

I can see Mario 64 DS as a remake due to that its entirely different with the textures and etc. being new assets maybe

sort of

maybe

but ultimate, almost all the characters are just ported over from wii u

I still consider 64 to be a port

I also agree spooky that there needs to be an inbetween for roster update and true sequel, I just disagree with where you two are drawing the limit

i think i would not count it as a port if everything was newer

but its too much like an "enhanced port"

plus, thats nintendo's design model

if smash ultimate was just new characters than 100% I would agree it was a port

they do it ALL THE TIME

where do you draw the line then pika

is bowsers inside for 3ds a port

since it has a new mode

I would not know

I have not played it or the origonal

is the new mode important

It's a second campaign, like DLC in a lot of ways

so its if it is important to you?

yes, do note that everyone here is being subjective

including me

so

if smash didnt add a mode that was "important" to you

it would be a port

if smash did not have a new single player, I would be more willing to accept it as a port

yes

because singleplayer is a major part of the game

as it is packaged

not for smash

Pika

yes for smash

yes it is

its not a "selling point"

Did you not look at the site

FFS