lfg

maybe it is because I don't give a shit about multiplayer and only ever care about singleplayer

fe8 is an enitrely different game though, with different story, characters, gameplay changes, even combat changes

I think it wouldn't be fair to call it a roster update, because they did add new modes

smash ultimate has an entirely different story, new characters, has gameplay changes

But those new modes are seperate addons, from the core of the game

that's why "enhanced port" fits the best

but the basepika

is the same

Smash doesn't have a story Pika, it' a fighting game

It has a story mode

so is ff8

and ff7

Just like it has a Spirit mode

FF

the games are very similar max

good job pika

FUCK

FOR FUCK SAKES KARP

1 MORE TIME AND I BAN YOU

Anyways

FE8 has NO reused characters though, its ENTIRELY seperate

A lot of the gameplay mechanics were probably borrowed though

Mario is in every smash game, all smash games are ports

"were probably"

so you could say it is just a very enhanced port

This is their site Pika

pika

its not the same game though

This is how they're selling the game

basically is

Ultimate is the same game

to a first approximation

They're selling it like you'd sell a port

youre comparing

a fighting game

to a strategic RPG with story as an important point

Story is important to me for smash

maybe it is not for you, but it is a big deal for me

Smash has a story MODE, not a story Pika

it has lore

yeah, every fighting game has "lore"

Well, to be fair, according to the last direct. It's the same "lore" it's always had

Subspace and now world of light can be considered story

toys came to life and started fighting

but the story isnt the main focus

It's a story mode

it doesn't need to be the main focus

the toys coming to life is just a setting

I am just going to have to disagree with you two. I do not define port the way you two seem to

It stands on it's own, separate from the main part of the game

All I'm saying, is if you define a port as being a directly iterative sequel Between a roster update and an actual sequel

Then Smash 5 is a port

a port is the same game being PORTED to a new platform

smash 5 is not the same game, technically speaking

"enhanced port"

Not the way Nintendo has done it for wiiU games Dialga

They take the game, add something, then re-release it

and I don't. To qualify as a port for me it needs to be the same game with almost nothing being changed. Enough is different for me to qualify it as a new game.

Bowsers Inside Story is getting an enhanced port to 3DS

It's getting a seperate, story campaign, in addition to tweaking the original main game mode

every Pokemon game is a port then. and so is every legend of zelda game. maybe every kirby game?

I don't for example count mario 64 ds as a port, it is a remake

all ports, max?

Dialga, do you not see the difference, honestly

what dialga

Smash 4 had 58 characters, they reused those characters models attacks and assumingly animations, maybe tweaking values, making it be 16 characters that had too be animated and etc. Smash 4 had 55 stages, they made around 50 more for ultimate then. Add on adding "stickers" back. Add on small balance changes. Add on a "story mode". 16 "new "characters MADE. 50~ stages Stickers Story mode Small gameplay tweaks and visual additions Useless assist trophies and items

Dialga how do you not understand what a port is

I do know what a port is

this is actually autistic https://i.imgur.com/FoqqiB3.png

Max, Pika fundamentally disagrees for the record, going by his remarks on Maro 64 DS

^

I just do not agree with that definition of port

I think you're wrong Pika for the record, but no amount of arguing will change that

adding enhanced to the word port just makes me question to what degree is something still a port and not a remake

but

a remake usually shares like no assets

lol

I think there needs to exist something when discussing sequels, that's between a roster update (like sports games get) and a true sequel