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did you really learn that much in english one your freshman level year of college?

To be fair spooky, 1st year college is basically grade 12 review usually for most classes

at least the ones I took

AP

is a joke though

I'm sure you've talked to your professors Pika, and they bemoan having to teach lower level stuff people should have already seen

also you learn 0 things in first year of college

I have not

except maybe Calc II

I never go to office hours so I do not talk with profs much

also you learn 0 things in first year of college"""

despite them serving a purpose, I feel their resentment for recieveing unprepared students

also they usually force 1st year classes on grad students

This exactly lol

which is what the lower tracks in high school pump out

I'm sorry that lots of students are fucking dumb?

and you need to do the higher tracks to get accepted

at least at UW

you cannot take the non high level versions of each course

There has been a quality drop though

for sure

I feel like your problem should more be the schools who's students are stuck in taking basic ass english classes when they could be participating in college ones

Main thing most profs complain about is the lack of circle/elliptical geometry new students know

god i'm so bad at circles and ellipses lol

I relearn them every time I tutor someone in them

and then promptly forget them

Because really, it's not that the school is too low of a level for the school to teach the kids, it's more that the kids are at a higher level than most, so they compensate by providing opportunities like dual enrollment and stuff to atleast get them a bonus for being smart and working hard or whatever- dual enrollment isn't the standard, there's only like 4? kids in my class graduating with an AA

I do agree with spooky though. If it is considered a college class, then HS should just teach more and college should start at an even higher level

This all ties back into a problem High school diplomas are fucking worthless, and schools don't have enough state curriculum to provide more than two years of valid coursework we've lowered standards for the last 15 years, starting with no child left behind if we don't have a purpose to high school, don't send people to high school if we're admitting that at grade 10, they might as well just start college, that means colleges have also slipped why do we accept that "the first year of college is worthless anyway" or in your case first 2 years

See lamp to your last point

that is a fault of your current system

that you have overachivers who are above average, because instead of them just being really smart, the average is just retarded

I think it is kinda silly that as a math major my college would want me to take two semesters of american history even though the normal student would have taken that exact same thing in 11th grade, so why should they retake it

And that's why the first year of college is seen as useless I would assume

I think it is silly that math majors should have to take any non program courses at all

do they not give you any flexibility on your general courses?

at uni we got a LOT of freedom

Sorry, my math major would want me to take like 2 credits of a history

my program has not done that. Only non math/physics elective I took was a philosophy course on arguementation and formal logic

not necessarily american

my program lets me take whatever the fuck I want

^

But the general student would be like "hey i already know american history, so that'll be an easy A!"

WE got a list of 100+ courses broken into categories

yeah

I haven't actually picked courses for my uni so maybe it'll be like that, for the local community college they say specific requirements for an AA in certain programs

While I'm generally in favour of people taking out-of-major classes in general not if you're forced to take shit you don't want to take

And I'm grabbing the AA through the local college since that's where my dual enrollment classes is, and then goin to univ for my bachelors

Whats an AA

2 year degree

2-year-degree

why do you need that?

they used to be for women

when colleges started offereing programs that could be completed in 2 years

also

women shouldn’t go to college

I agree

it's a lower bachelor's degree

fuck taking shit you dont care about

So for most universities and stuff outside of state, they might not take dual enrollment or AP credits

I'm so glad

that like

but if you have an associates degree they had to recognize it

half of my "persepctives" were covered by ap

I wouldnt even say most universities outside of state,

just like private schools and stuff like that

err, higher end ones

I think people benefit from some of those classes Bopit, but not when they go super SJW

and you have to take a gender studies

or an quality class

or something completely worthless

I can see benifit in some writting classes, several logic and philosphy ones

etc

why do people major in gender studies

but I don't think college are the devil for pushing people into ^^

gender studies is less useful than philosophy

if i actually pass hs i’m going for history which is pretty useless

Bio the non meme awnser is some people go to university just to get a degree

without actually wanting to do anything

sounds like free debt