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Nintendo needs to remake it or make another

Chameleon Twist 2 when?

Good thing I dont think people here consider themselves a cis ally

Anyways this Juneteenth everyone should send me 50 dollars for being italian

Snorks clear smurfs

They have prisoners to do that

Idk what your overwatch lore has to do with classifying gameplay mechanics

Rocket jumping is a thing you do, phara has it as an ability on her hero. Hero shooter.

Actually heavy can also shoot fire

And again, lore doesnt change anything when talking about gameplay mechanics and how you describe them

I understand your point, I jusy disagree cause its retarded

Where did i say that?

No it doesnt youre just projecting lmao

My b, ill get back to this when I have some time

Are you talking about the ost

Hi, my argument hinges on the fact that hero shooters are as inspired by MOBAs as they are class based shooters ig. I don't think Lore really has any place in determining if its a hero shooter. All these games came out post-LoL/Dota boom and 10 years after TF2. All these games have passive abilities, Cool down based spells/abilities, and ultimates. They also all have large rosters to suit different styles of play and are 1 character of X per team (like a moba). TF2 is more modular in what a class does, less competitive, and simply doesnt have any of those aspects. I think retroactively calling it a hero shooter is kinda disingenuous, but i can see how youd come to that conclusion since people see it as the basis of future hero shooters. I realistically just think it was the most similar thing that existed in the market previously.

I think its the moba adjacent aspects that are the defining feature. Games like Apex dont have 5CP, KoTH, Payload, etc. Though its still a hero shooter.

I think themes seen in one is in the other, but that doesnt make the previous thing the current thing. I think TF2 is just too different.

Well ultimates are big bombastic abilities. I think the closest argument you could make is like an Uber. Again thats just kind of roughly relating things to each other.

Tf2 also having things like abilities doesnt mean its a hero shooter, it just means some classes have abilities. Its the lack of passives/cooldowns/ultimate moves that build up and swing momentum that differ them.

Yea, and I think thats a core part of defining a hero shooter.

Eh, idk if its a volume thing. I think those necessary aspects of a hero shooter yea.

I mean, are there "hero shooters" without those things?

Ive never played Rainbow 6 siege, does that game have ultimates?

I think those are so few theyre exceptions

3/9 classes have extra abilities

Uber, Disguise, and Airblast

Yea but they don't reallt have passives, and the resources required to attain them are different. I just think its too big of a gap to say its a hero shooter. The ideas are somewhere in there, I understand its jusy a very low volume. Its just too low.

Because I dont think theres another example to be given that doesnt have the 3 other things I said.

I dont think a product like TF2 as it is could come out mechanically the same. It would have to be more akin to Marvel Rivals/OW/Apex etc. I can understand labeling it hero shooter though, its just easier to assign it as such. Honestly labels like that/genres in general are pretty messy when not talking in broad strokes.

A 9 class Justice League game with loadouts would be refreshing, but that means they couldn't release a backlog of 900 characters with skins without ruining visual clarity/cohesion

Weird. I know that the remaster of BL1 has a memory leak that makes it unplayable.

And they still haven't updated it

Trump should say that Elon taking Ketamine and pissing himself is true next

Elon said the BBB is a shit ass bill, Trump said Elons actually a gay retard and is leaving, and Elon is mad he was disrespected on the way out

I dont even think Elon is mad about the 10 years of no AI regulation unless by the fed

Oh, people are mad because Take2 updated their EULA.

Why are you cutting out the soiling himself, its integral

Its why India is aligned with him

He found out they're sending George Droid to clean up isreal and lost it

50%

They used the fuck ass repo logo and not the remade one

Isn't Nintendos voice chat app mobile only?

The elevator pic is Dani, Momo, and Robs onlyfans girl. I forget if its the British one still.

Cant believe she just ran out into traffic like that.

Where would you rank deepest sword on this list

Wake me when they announce a slop Halo remake on unreal engine

They should make Rare make a good game, like B&K Nuts and Bolts 2