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you just need to make sure that before every branch location, there are enough branches in every direction

same with branches

(they should just map the items properly with logic cough)

skill issue, and as long as they made sure there was one for every door MINIMUIM

O_O

(THE ONES THAT OPEN MASSIVE DOORS)

its pretty obvious which ones there have items

i mean

lol

you end up with like 20+ extra lockstones

like in a normal ds2 run if you dont spend them all on the traps

which lockstones are wastes

but most people dont remember

you haev WAY MORE thane nough to get all the items

i mean yeah, but i think part of that issue though is that if all items are randod properly

only about 7 of them in the game hide actual items too

master lockstone is so fucking gay because lockstone isnt even required for anything

the very first DS2 item rando just gave you 99 lockstones and 99 yore when you found one

The good DS2 rando has the lockstones and branches seperately

LAAAAAME TinyBomby I dunno if it's a setting or what, but my friend when he did DS2 got a master lockstone instead of individual ones.

dont lower until you get to anor londo and beat o and s

because the golden fog gates

iirc

you still have to do bells -> sens TinyBomby Not sure how it would work, but I feel like having the bells of awakening as checks would be fun for DS1.

and DS2 is the closest to that out of the games due to its massive amount of key items + branches + lockstones

this is why zelda games are the peak of randos due to the plethora of keys and how items uunlock items in almost every area taxes i judge the value of a randomizer off of how much you can adjust and how much the game ACTUALLY changes off of key items being mixed DS3 just "tkaes more time" You can't do anything "out of

DS1 isnt much better but i think having more otpions of where to go lends itself to being better. and thiefs key is fuun as an item} but you need like the archives key, thiefs key/the key to go down, artorias ring (maybe)... and lordvessel if you dont get lordvessel (almost everyone plays with early lordvessel or che

i judge the value of a randomizer off of how much you can adjust and how much the game ACTUALLY changes off of key items being mixed DS3 just "tkaes more time" You can't do anything "out of order" that you couldn't before

yeah but youre still running through the same other 8 areas in a row

(because the game is a straight line)

otherwise you can go in a straight line the entire game

at MOST, getting the doll allows you to take one different route

it doesnt lend itself well to a rando because the only place you can go is a straight line

because... otherwsise youre just softlocked lol

even with archipelago it ends up with them rather early

becuase the game is going to give you those items before or when you make it to those places

with logic

that it ends up not mattering

so extrodinarily linear

that still doesnt change that DS3 is

i believe the default rando (non archipelago) just makes the cinders behind the bosses but yeah if you rando those it can be up to 6, 7 if you include the doll but doll technically can not be required

if youre not forcing logic

are all you can need

coiled sword and lothric banner

to beat the game?

DS2 has fragrent branches and pharos lockstones, key to lost balistile, the key to black gulch ashen mist heart, giant souls, giants kinship, rotunda lockstone, reinforcing weapons is locked behind wasting a fragrant branch or getting lenigrasts key

DS3 was very very first and argubyl DS3 is the worst to random because it has TWO key items

DS1 has 3 key items lol

DS2 is also WAY WAY WAY better for randos

ds1 remaster is in beta too TinyBomby I'm not sure why they did DS2 before 1, but my friend did it in an archipelago and it was pretty miserable. (edited)