politics

it's TRIVIAL to tell

Yes the worthless to them they can pick out. From someone outside they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference

put them all together in their own parallel structure

and hey, if 1 in 1,000 manage to make something of themselves, great

we don't literally need to kill them

even if I'd be in favor of it

You said to have a pre-prison system for them

yes

that's the pre-prison system

You are setting people up to fail

is the alternative pretending to be surprised when they do fail?

no really

what value is there in playing pretend

that "everyone can make it"

When you can dictate who makes someone a delinquent or someone retarded then you are just the same problem in the school system in a different mask

again, we don't have to literally kill them

if they are enabled to fuck off for 18 years in school, but clean themselves up and want to greet people at Walmart

go ahead

but don't kid yourself, most won't

I think fundementally, there is just a percentage of people who are going to be failures. I think having some straight to the farm below minimum wage job pipeline set up for them will make things easier for them and us

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Hell, we can do a 3 tier system

normal school, inbetween, and pipeline to prison

and I think the longer you pretend and commit outsized amounts of resources towards them, the greater a disservice it is to the actual kids trying to learn

See you just said when they are enabled to be fuck ups, who is enabling them

and the in between is where you get kicked down to with a chance to climb back up

and agreed Pika

I want to make it hard to wash out

in between system can and should be just as good education wise as the main system too

its just a "oh shit I fucked up let me fix this" chance

and I don't care how dumb you are, enough effort will get you through in 99% of cases

unless you're genuinely retarded

You are just bringing back a feudal system, only the smart can attend here and we think your not capeable of higher learning so you stay in this section

Its not even smart

its "able to function without fighting and disrupting"

>the fuedal system where 85% of people are in the landed class

un huh

You deny the ability of people to move and challenge themselves to become better

You can be an F tier student in the main school system

Idk about prison school, but I do think there is no point of having genuinely retarded people in the school, even if they are in a special ed class. Especially because the school system will take people who function at a 6 year old level and try to integrate them in to normal classes.

if you get into a lot of disruptive altrications, you get kicked down to the middle school as a warning to wisen up

if you are so far gone the message does not stick

pipeline

if you've ever tried to challenge yourself congrats, you're not in the 15%

I really think it's pretty fucking obvious

who is participating, and who is a nuisance

remove the nuisances

simple

If the people who are as smart as you think they are being stuck in a class with someone who is retarded them sorry that person is not challenging themselves

And they don’t get to cry about someone being disrupt