politics
Thursday, March 6, 2025
^literally nonsense for the record
Pika, do you even want to keep Alberta though?
Nonsense in that this is the equivalent to some no name US senator saying they are going to do something that obviously will never happen
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131 Pika, do you even want to keep Alberta though?
I think the second a single province leaves, the country collapses
yeah but do you want Alberta specifically
ig I'm curious if you're doing tiers, which provinces do you actually care about losing
Alberta is more important
least important province is probably Manitoba
I assume at some level you'd be fine as long as Ontario and Quebec stuck it out together
can't lose the French charm after all
give her time
They don't
and I thought this was a politican, not some shitter lawyer
yeah this is literally nothing being advertised because its good for the US newscycle
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131 I assume at some level you'd be fine as long as Ontario and Quebec stuck it out together
If any province leaves, I think the country collapses. At that point, I would rather each province just become a micronation
as opposed to trying to form some weird coalition
For the record, I think if a single US state was allowed to leave (they would not be), it would also cause a ripple effect of at least a handful more also trying to leave
having a part of your country leave kind of distabilizes the country if its not the case where there is a natural border between the parts
I think you're right in that they wouldn't be allowed to, but I think the only reason it wouldn't work well for most of the US is that geographically, N.America is essentially just the continental united states
there's not larger system to become a part of
you're either the US, a US protectorate like Canada or Mexico, or one of the many shitter countries that produce drugs or bananas
any state leaving on their own would just become a 2nd Canada, where there's this implicit relationship that is one-sided
I would be interested in the theoretic list of states that would leave given being allowed to
because you know a lot of states would at least vote on it
none
Hawaii would be the closest
Idk spooky, I think if you sell it to them the right way
moreso than Texas
I think zero states/provinces benefit from being independent, other than Quebec
Spooky you cannot both believe that 30+% of Canadians would join the US and also not believe that random states would not at least consider leaving just to mix things up
and quebec only doesn't do it because they get so many concessions
Hawaii would
probably similar numbers to the 30%
I think you would get mainland US states that try it
not independent
Which ones depend on which party is currently in power
I think <1% of Canadians would be in favor of their province truely becoming independtend long-term, Quebec excluded
I think it's higher in America, maybe <5%
outside of Hawaii
where it's probably in the 20-30 range
I think the more likely thing is a bunch of states try to leave to form a coalition super mini country than pure independence I guess
A confederate states 2
now that has some appeal
I think the issue is, both political sides see this reality where they own the entire country
even conservatives with California, see it as an "occupied red state at heart"
and Liberals see the entire country as being "held hostage by all the red counties and an uneducated populace", even sttes that vote 80% republican like WV
what would actually happen, if allowed to
is states would adjust their borders internally
since all of our states are fairly decentralized, a lot of border counties or subsections of states want to reorganize themselves
once we get off the nice round number of 50, I genuinely do think the subdivision movements will gather more support
you can solve it multiple ways, but I don't think any of the it floated until we get a few more states added
and we break the fixation with #50
DC and PR
genuinely
should both be states
you know I push for Guam/Mariana, which I think has a solid case, as does Greenland if we buy it
Canada makes sense, but I think you have to wait for their economy to implode before the boomers will come around to it
there's an argument to lump in the surrounding VA/MD suburbs with DC, and form a Colombia state
but even on its own, (exluding the federal district where no one lives) it's quite populus
Puerto Rico has 3M citizens in it
probably closer to 4M now