Message in #nintendo · Neon Genesis Phijkchu

GnarlySheep Jan 23, 2023 11:17 AM nintendo

Replying to taxes #tzfi

i think i figured out the games plot just by trying a different emblem on MC 💀when mc emblems only one hair color changes, so i assume the natural hair color of the mc is red and the fell dragon girl was looking for (You) and you're her sibling, so your true parent is the fell dragon and your blue part comes from """mommy""" dumping all her life into you since that's what changes

...what chapter are you on...

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 11:38 AM nintendo

My guess is she was on like 12-13 when she posted that

Lute Jan 23, 2023 11:40 AM nintendo

apparently you can reclass whenver you want in engage and it doesn't matter

Lute Jan 23, 2023 11:40 AM nintendo

exp works based on an internal level and not your actual level so promoting doesn't seem to cut your exp gains

Lute Jan 23, 2023 11:41 AM nintendo

you can also second seal to push your advanced class back to lvl 1

Lute Jan 23, 2023 11:42 AM nintendo

there really doesn't seem to be any advantage to sticking with a base class beyond lvl 10

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 11:44 AM nintendo

Bopit, we needed you in vc last night

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 11:45 AM nintendo

We had a bunch of stat questions

taxes Jan 23, 2023 12:02 PM nintendo

second seals r kinda useless unless you're just using the same unit

taxes Jan 23, 2023 12:02 PM nintendo

in this game

taxes Jan 23, 2023 12:03 PM nintendo

by the time you can buy them it's very autistic to work on leveling

taxes Jan 23, 2023 12:03 PM nintendo

you needed to get them like 6 chapters earlier

GnarlySheep Jan 23, 2023 12:11 PM nintendo

Well... spoilers for like chapter 20 something Yeah no you are pretty much spot on.

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:18 PM nintendo

Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131

We had a bunch of stat questions

like what?

Rusp Jan 23, 2023 3:37 PM nintendo

We didn’t

Rusp Jan 23, 2023 3:37 PM nintendo

He’s lying

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:42 PM nintendo

idk what you would even ask about stats

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:42 PM nintendo

they are pretty self explanatory

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 3:42 PM nintendo

I think it was all situational 2nd seal stuff

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 3:42 PM nintendo

I can't remember if there was anything else

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 3:44 PM nintendo

and then my question that google didn't seem to have an answer for, of optimizing build/weight

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:44 PM nintendo

I havn't played with those much anyway

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:44 PM nintendo

go for the highest weight that is under your units build

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 3:45 PM nintendo

can you realistically speed-stat yourself through the decrease?

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:45 PM nintendo

yes

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 3:45 PM nintendo

for some reason the built in optimizer (which is hit-or-miss) seems to really like taking massive speed debufs

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 3:45 PM nintendo

unnecessarily

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:46 PM nintendo

just give everyone an iron and silver weapon and you are probably fine

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:46 PM nintendo

javalins and hand axes for range

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:46 PM nintendo

if you really want to be autistic give them steel too so you can have other options

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 3:46 PM nintendo

I think tripple kitting is just stupid ngl

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 3:47 PM nintendo

back when durrability was around, sure

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:47 PM nintendo

if you pay attention to build and reforged weapon upgrades you can do what I did

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:47 PM nintendo

I plan to have chloe as a wyvern knight with sigurds ring and a reforged +5 silver lance

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:48 PM nintendo

she has 10 build and the lance is holy engraved so it has 10 weight

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:48 PM nintendo

this is also why it will take me a year to beat the game

Lute Jan 23, 2023 3:50 PM nintendo

also obviously brave weapons for slow units that have high attack stats

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:12 PM nintendo

like i said there's zero minmaxing to be had from second sealing in this game

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:12 PM nintendo

because levels start to get SUPER slow

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:12 PM nintendo

you can't skill hop like you can in awakening

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:12 PM nintendo

and build makes it so female units are just always worse

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:13 PM nintendo

it's a funny stat but

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:13 PM nintendo

the other issue is

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:13 PM nintendo

there's little point going too hard on multiple units at the start

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:13 PM nintendo

because unlike other games, the new receuits you get are almost always like

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:13 PM nintendo

marginally better

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:13 PM nintendo

even if you get perfect gains

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:14 PM nintendo

so if you're minmaxing there's no point going hard on more than like two units

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:14 PM nintendo

because unlike other games in one or two chapters you get a unit that outclasses them instantly

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:14 PM nintendo

and more than likely since there's maps with +3 recruits multiple times

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:15 PM nintendo

you are decentvised from using them

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:15 PM nintendo

that's a better way to say it

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:15 PM nintendo

it feels like you're having units just thrown at you all game

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:15 PM nintendo

yes

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:15 PM nintendo

that's why there's no point

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:15 PM nintendo

you bring 7-8 units of your squad into any given battle

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:16 PM nintendo

that's the only part of the 3H concept I think they did better smaller overall roster for each path

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:16 PM nintendo

lots of negatives there too

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:17 PM nintendo

you get yo bring 7-8 and then you know you get a new axe unit on the map because you see them

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:17 PM nintendo

but I like being forced to use some characters based on what I need, rather than just being given what I need

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:17 PM nintendo

so jo point to bring your own

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:18 PM nintendo

it's the same way with upgrading your units too

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:18 PM nintendo

use a master seal and then very next level

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:18 PM nintendo

you get a level 10 unit with bettet stats

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:18 PM nintendo

that can seal instantly

GnarlySheep Jan 23, 2023 5:18 PM nintendo

its like the design philosophy is there to allow people to have units die on classic mode or somethin, but even excelblem noted it being in excess lol

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:19 PM nintendo

they made the game harder, so +1 to Inteligent Systems

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:19 PM nintendo

yes that's ehy they normally give you replacement units

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:19 PM nintendo

but it's not always a constant

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:19 PM nintendo

outright better

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:19 PM nintendo

for hours

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:20 PM nintendo

you het

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:20 PM nintendo

2 lords per nation then each lord has 2 retainers

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:20 PM nintendo

Shadow Dragon forces you to fodder a unit on map 1

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:20 PM nintendo

they'd never do something like that now, because supports

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:21 PM nintendo

and having to make 2x the number of cutscenes or whatever

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:21 PM nintendo

but if they want the huge varried cast of characters, they can't just hand them all to you

Spooky Phijkchu Jan 23, 2023 5:22 PM nintendo

because (looking at the map stats) 90% of people don't change their parties more than they have to

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:25 PM nintendo

well

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:25 PM nintendo

casuals wont car

taxes Jan 23, 2023 5:25 PM nintendo

care

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