general

I think, in general, very few people would think it's morally neutral to willfully run over stray dogs or cats that might be in the road.

And then, how much someone cares about moral consistency becomes a factor. Most people would think someone was a sociopath if they kept a dog in a cage too small to move around in for its entire life, but if it's a cow or something then it's totally okay. (or, at least, they can tolerate it if they try not to think about it)

The problems with factory farming would be the best way to convert someone on the fence to veganism, I think. And I guess the problem when the animals aren't all cramped together is that it costs too much to do, especially when the demand for meat is rising.

Really, it's just a matter of harm reduction, along with how much a person cares.

X% of people might not eat meat because they really care about animals. X% might care enough to go vegan if there were non-meat alternatives (or soon, cultured meat alternatives) that tasted the same. X% of people might not give a shit either way, but might eat less or no meat if non-meat alternatives were cheaper and tasted the same.

For specific examples...Max might stop eating meat if alternatives tasted good. Rusp might stop, if there were societal pressures to stop eating meat. Pika or Dolfin might stop on the doctor's orders after the first heart attack.

Though, as with pushing public opinion leftward on any social issue, you don't really need to convince everyone. Just target the most receptive people first, while waiting for the least receptive people (the elderly) to die.

And then, maybe by 2050 the majority will be vegan. Just like Rob said.

but it's harm reduction of something that doesn't matter?

I get that dogs/cats might be their own class of animal due to humans weird relationship with them

but who the fuck cares about a cow other than weird peta people

I don't think living vegan is some inherently undoable thing either, you can take supplements and make a "healthy" diet out of it

But I guess I still don't understand the moral component of it

other than "some people have a weird relationship with random lower animals"

none of the "meat substitutes" on the market are actually meat, just like almond milk isn't milk

that doesn't mean it's bad, it's just its own thing

lab-grown "meat" is also coming, but I have my doubts about that until its further along

I can "like" animals as much as I like the old oak tree in my back yard

but I'm not going to go to my local tree farm and chain myself to random trees to save them from becoming paper

Lab grown meat will be cool but its gonna be expensive

Oh yeah, I'm hyped for it

I will literally never eat it

I will stick to my borger

anyways twitter put the boot down of scihub https://twitter.com/campuscodi/status/1347551800338112513

I just want you to know

if a monke shows up at my door

I'm blaming you Pika

lol

for what

I know you gave Fire ideas

oh

lmao

youtube recommended this to me, relevant to our conversation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvH2i9_80DQ

Oh yeah, I'm hyped for it

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Ok my phone is litterally broken

Ope

fuck you

you broke the chain

Yes I did

go commit die

It had to happen eventuality

eventuality

Not my death, but the chain breaking

Ya know what I meant

Blame autocorect and cold hands

I plan on living a very nice long life

mhm

Id give shakeshack chicken sandwich a 7.3/10

I don't remember them looking like that

almost looks like teriyaki chicken

Looks like a bbq sandwich

Its kbbq

I meant like pork or something

Is regi trying to do his femoid impression

No but im surrounded by really hot asian college girls now, because u of m is like 75% asian

Wait what you are in my state?

I feel like I knew this before but forgotten

Michigan, that's the only school that uses UM officially

Oh

S tier shitpost

Is it

yes

I watched it already

Yeah simpleflips content is still pretty good I appreciated this shitpost

Oh yeah, I'm hyped for it

Oh yeah, I'm hyped for it

Oh no, i'm saddened by it

alright banning karp

its been fun

Kk