general

I know, dictionaries are dumb

but I'm more in like with the 2nd definition I think

Looking at your phone while driving

Is being unconcerned about driving

You are careless while drunk

driving drunk is carelessness

It's called "intoxication" for a reason

so definition 2 supports us

not you

the phone isn't reckless

yes it is

the driving itself is reckless

it is a visual distraction

You are careless about driving when looking at your phone

Yes

it is reckless to use your phone

if I drive over the line, because I'm clappign along to a song

that's recklessness

is this a fucking semantics arguement

It makes your driving reckless

It is dan

this is isnt it

it was reckless on your part to use your phone

fuck you spooky

I don't know why Dolf and Pika have a stick up their ass about this one

Spooky you are just wrong

I don't know what to tell you

semantics is such a bad thing to argue about

you've overdefined what can be "reckless" Pika

You say pika gent and I have sticks up our asses about it because we disagree

Reckless: To knowingly take an action that is dangerous that you do not need to do

sorry we don’t want people crashing into us due to recklessly looking at their phone when driving

people who disagree with drunk driving are prudes and inhibit my personal freedoms granted by the constitution

or do we want a line about how a recklessly dressed man, sang with recklass abandon while recklessly using his phone while recklessly driving

that is effectively how I am defining it

in this circumstance

Public nudity should be illegal, yes

^

driving drunk and using your phone is an action you knowingly take, which is commonly known to be dangerous, and you have no reason to do them

so as far as I am concerned, it is reckless

drop the "recklessly" language alltogether

No.

Okay, I disagree.

which is why an hour ago, I said we disagree fundemantally

Things that lower reaction time are provably dangerous

and minimizing unnecessary actions that lower reaction time is fine

I don't care about that, all I care about is whether or not the blue kia 100ft in front of me is going to randomly switch lanes or blow through the next light

You see judge my definition of reckless was different from every legal document I’m sorry

Can’t convict me now

Don't get drunk if you don't have a place to stay the night

Uber

Do you care about the car behind you having a 3 second delay in recation time

Get kidnapped

so when the retard in front of you slams on the brakes, and you do

he rear ends you

so then he's liable for rear ending me?

I don't see the issue

Okay, you are now dead

he rear ended you and you hit your head

Ignore all trends and statistics

then he's liable for 2nd degree murder

or whatever

could have stopped it premptively

fuck that

"Arrest black people AFTER they commit crimes"

preemptive legislating

Get a load of this guy

is cancer

let's just lock up all black people, because they commit more crimes statistically

Ok

So

What if

fuck it, let's just keep the lockdown going forever, in case people get hurt in the outside world

Glad we've come to an agreement

I think we finally found an issue where I agree with gent and not you when it comes to libertarianism spooky

this is an interesting case study

Lockdown the border, not your houses

because 95% of the time it is you and I yelling at gent

and I think the fact you don't drive means your opinion is illinformed