K-6, most of the cirriculum is not lecture based, it's hands-on
general
Wednesday, July 10, 2024
thinking 7-12, the overall expectations for the class become lower and lower, as people around you are just not trying or not participating
Efficient schooling should be the goal, and for the most part it should skew towards developing the top 10% as a priority
but if you can only field enough teachers/facilities for 2 groups
mix the general populace together, and just weed out the bad eggs
and not as like a punishment, but it's a waste of state resources to do this song and dance for no reason
if education benefits from being a state function (which I think it does) don't lose sight of the actual goals
I mean, they're basically independent as it is
some states are lazy and fall back to using Dept. of Education curriculum because it's "free" and easy
it's a catch 22, states that have enough resources to care and segregate, end up trying for the bottom 20% anyway, so they get the tax dollars
states that are too poor to care, didn't have the resources to segregate, so they get the tax dollars because the standards are so low
difference is the well-funded states/districts also produce actual educated kids as well
versus the poor ones that just don't
I think the write-off is ~10% of kids in most districts, higher in really shitty areas, maybe 20-30% there
it's not struggling, it's non-participation
well, there's also special needs, which is its own whole other thing
but in general, anyone who wants to try should be in the general ed level classes, K-12
even if they're getting a 20% on every graded assignment
I think most states K-6, have two measures of grades, achievement and effort
as long as you're getting satisfactory effort marks, you're obeying the teacher, you're participating, etc.
you should be getting an education
I care about education (as might come accross in my autistic sperging lol)
and I think we're pretty good at it, most of the time
but the whole underfundedness and lack of ability to give top performers the correct support is the biggest shortcoming
I think most people recieve a pretty damn good education though, if they participate
that's not most of the funding though, this is the big Republican/Democtat lie
most of the funding is local taxes, so wealthy district == better schools
which on some level *makes sense*
that's like 80% of school funding
the rest are state funds, but states get a rebate from the federal government
based on test scores
so low-performing schools lose the state money, which *usually* is just absorbed by the state
the problem is it's local taxes though
you elect your local school board directly (its on your ballot)
they have a budget collected via taxes, and present a plan on how to educate your kids
states regulate this and accredit curriculum etc.
so that 20%, isn't from the federal government, it's from the state government, who collect it from you via state taxes
the federal government has a program though, where they will pay the state back the tax dollars they spend on education, if people score good on standardized tests
those federal tax dollars are also paid by you btw
don't forget
but it's a way for the state government to make "extra" money, without raising taxes on you directly
they just get a share of federal tax dollars
but so in actuality, I think almost 100% of states, don't adjust school year-to-year funding based on test scores
but administration will get in trouble and lose their jobs, because as state employees they cost the state money
so to them it's THE MOST IMPORTANT THING EVER
and they lie and tell you its about school funding
(yes I'm sure there are corner cases of 1% swings here or there to make it technically not a lie)
I mean that's good!
good area, good school w/e it was
Replying to log3260 #log3260 I like the education system in a lot of ways but I feel like teachers good will gets bought up and given away by whoever hires them and that ultimately leaves us with a bunch of depressed burnt out teachers that should be better
1000%
teacher compensation and retention is a huge issue
Replying to Dialga #god_of_time i don't think i should have, but i was very frustrated with my school at the time and i hated going in the first place. because it was extremely boring and i also got some amount of bullying, though not physical abuse. so my issues werent funding related issues
ik we've talked about it before, but I don't think school is some sanctified thing "the only possible way to educate and prepare someone for the real world" neither is college whatever ended up working for you clearly worked for you
I think as long as the default system for most people who don't have time to think about this sort of stuff is trustworthy and efficient, we've done a good job
not there yet, but it's also not the dark ages like some people claim it is
imo, school's not about finding a job, it's about getting you to a point where you can solve problems and come to solutions
ofc basic skills too, how to read/write/articulate an idea, how to do math, basics on how the world works, what's expected of you, etc.
I get that's some ideal view, I really don't want it to come across as out of touch
you have a GED and work experience though
to me, that's enough to be a viable hire for non-specialized labour
I think that's the majority view as well
the job market always sucks, waiting for "the right job" drives people crazy