games

so if you succeed in a raid, do you just win?

and you dont win the game with your raid

you lose instead

yes

a raid is a win

oh

everytime you raid someone you do 30 damage to them, and after you take 25 damage

but if you claim an objective in their base

you do 70 damage

it sounded like you could get some base dmg, even if you're repelled

or smthn

yes

thats what im saying

ok then, yeah

if you are A and you attack B B takes 30 damage

I feel like it's deceptively snowbally

if you do not FULLY KILL B and WIN THE GAME

you take 25 damage

so if you suck, your eonly 5 points ahead

the team that's ahead, just has to do more than 25dmg per raid

well its hard to get behind

loot wise

so its purely how good are you at engagements

if you're losing engagements though, the other team gets upgrades

i doubt horse movement will be that crazy, but itll take another 40 mins for a match to start

i mean... if they get them

from the random chests

rng loot chests and its not like you can get SUPER ULTRA WEAPONS

when you have a purple weapon

you have a purple weapon

the servers dying on launch show the real influence of Apex Legends inthis

i think if anything its really really hard to actually snowball in this

unless theyre really bad

especially with the TTK unless armor tiers increase the TTK SOOOO MUCH

everytime a raid ends btw, it goes back to another loot phase

where someone cant raid

i doubt it

it doesnt in apex that much

so i doubt it does here

There are probably ways to fix it, I do think this sounds snowbally but I'm obviously not aware of what options you have as the behind team to catch up strategically

it got krept in apex iirc and got longer but i havent played in a long time

well you can steal the key if they get it You can literally just raid their base better I mean yes, if you are getting assraped and getting raided everytime- you just suck

I like the alien

is it 3v3 so they can get away with 8 characters

lol

how many are there rn i wonder

have they mentioned match times at all

yes

8 mins to 30

8*4 is 32

8-30 is wildly different lol

is how they got that number

well its because

oh ok

you can win in the first raid

due to both teams taking MINIMUM 25 damage

every raid

you cant have more than 4 raids

so unless you like, never use the key

ever

you insta win through macguffin shenanigans?

no you can win the raid if you break their core

base hp is like 100 getting raided = 30 defending raid does 25 breaking A objective is like 40? idk breaking B objective is the same C objective thats super hard to get but is an insta kill and insta wins the game

he's in

bruh

ok spooky, go into your BIOS and change settings, we gotta stream snipe

also i dont trust there being many bases

there'll def be a meta

i hate the looting

already

the looting is bad

especially as you add more items that are in the pool as the games life goes on

thats what the hsop is fore

that you get money from getting kills

and uh

breaking the minecraft diamonds

the SC2 crystals yea

wait