Message in #games · Neon Genesis Phijkchu

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:34 PM games

a lot of denuvo implementations also force you to be online

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:34 PM games

it doesn't really matter anymore but it's pretty jewy/money focused to hide it on the page

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:34 PM games

until release

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

I see no problem with it

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

there's no reason to do that unless you just want more pre-orders

Spooky Phijkchu Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

It's also very likely that when Denuvo servers eventually go down in 5-10 years, that all the indie games that use it will just be bricked

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

Well

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

there's ZERO reason to hide it

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

unless you just want more preorders

Spooky Phijkchu Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

^

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

Now i don't think they're actually getting less preorders by putting it

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

Sure

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

I'll make that clear

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

But I don’t think it’s a big deal

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

At all

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:35 PM games

but the intent is 100%

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:36 PM games

"oh redditors hate denuvo? okay we'll hide it :3"

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:36 PM games

NO

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:36 PM games

REDDITORS GOT TRICKED

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:36 PM games

not that it really matters in the end or effects their profits

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:36 PM games

but it is like, a money focused play

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:37 PM games

okay

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:37 PM games

Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131

if devs comitted to removing denuvo at some point (1, month, 6months, etc.) I'd have no problem with it

i think this would help too

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:37 PM games

and if they just complety stopped the "online only" requirements some games force

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:38 PM games

Because that shit is actually gay

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:38 PM games

and has fucked me once

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:38 PM games

I could understand being a little mad if this was from like a big super AAA studio

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:38 PM games

well

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:38 PM games

the publishers r like massive korean publishers

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:38 PM games

they publish the biggest rythm game in korea too

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:38 PM games

djmax

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:39 PM games

i think it was probably them that forced denuvo anyways

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:39 PM games

not the devs

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:39 PM games

Because the devs are pretty new

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:39 PM games

and the publisher has put a lot into advertising

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:39 PM games

so there is the chance too publisher asked semi last min maybe a week ago or smthn

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:39 PM games

for denuvo

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:39 PM games

I don’t think pirating is that bad or anything

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:39 PM games

To be clear

Gent Sep 15, 2023 6:39 PM games

It's more typical for AAA to be using it isn't it

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:39 PM games

i think devs 100% have the right to put drm in

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM games

Replying to Gent #gent_.

It's more typical for AAA to be using it isn't it

ye

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM games

but lies of p is not tripple A

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM games

But it can’t be surprising that devs want to make money

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM games

but they've had pretty high advertising budget

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM games

Or publishers even

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM games

Publishers especially

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM games

I mean, it probably was the publisher

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM games

im pretty sure it's because they

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM games

So people are boycotting a game for something the devs can’t control

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM games

spent a lot on advertising

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

no ones going to boycott lol

Gent Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

Denuvo is trash, but it's everywhere now

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

Well

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

no one actually doesn't buy a game because denuvo

Gent Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

No one boycotts over it

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

anymore

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

I’ve seen the twitter fighting words

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

pirates

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

lol

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

Immediately upon opening twitter

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

Yes

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

I know

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

it mattered with like uh

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

dishonored 2? i think

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

Anyone who complains is just a pirate pretending to not be one

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

was a very early denuvo game

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

and ran like fucking TRASH

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

with denuvo

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:41 PM games

which has stigmatized it since

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:42 PM games

even though it barely touches preformance

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:42 PM games

So you’re saying people are mad due to an incorrect preconception about the software….

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:42 PM games

That is an outdated understanding …

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:42 PM games

+ mostly pirates

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:42 PM games

lol

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:43 PM games

it's like 99% pirates complaining

Rusp Sep 15, 2023 6:43 PM games

See I just hate that they pretend like they aren’t pirates

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:43 PM games

I literally don't care about there being denuvo i just think it's scummy to hide it

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:43 PM games

i bought deathloop? i think, because i didn't want to wait for denuvo crack or some other game idr, literally don't care if a game has it

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:44 PM games

i just rather know ahead of time

taxes Sep 15, 2023 6:44 PM games

I'm actually more likely to preorder a game if it DOES have denuvo

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