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Polar_ Nov 16, 2024 1:28 PM food-and-pet-pix

Replying to ChivesKirk #chiveskirk

What are the best desks in your opinion and what are you missing for them?

My personal top 3 best are probably: Mewtwo x Gardevoir Dragonite with Aerodactly 3rd idk maybe Pikachu EX or Nidoqueen. I wanted to ask Garbage for his opinion as he played a bunch.

Polar_ Nov 16, 2024 1:29 PM food-and-pet-pix

I see people online say Misty is super OP, but its super inconsistent

legorhin Nov 16, 2024 1:29 PM food-and-pet-pix

anything coin flippy is stupid

legorhin Nov 16, 2024 1:29 PM food-and-pet-pix

just run mewtwo

ChivesKirk Nov 16, 2024 1:29 PM food-and-pet-pix

Oh so you've been opening Pikachu packs. Interesting...

Polar_ Nov 16, 2024 1:30 PM food-and-pet-pix

I am, but that's cause I like Misty lmao

Polar_ Nov 16, 2024 1:30 PM food-and-pet-pix

Mewtwo packs are probably best to open if you're trying to metadeck

ChivesKirk Nov 16, 2024 1:30 PM food-and-pet-pix

Unfortunately I've been opening Charizard packs and keep getting Exeggutor EX instead of Moltres EX or Starmie EX

Polar_ Nov 16, 2024 1:30 PM food-and-pet-pix

Exeggutor EX is good

legorhin Nov 16, 2024 1:30 PM food-and-pet-pix

i just got an exegguttor EX today for the first time

Polar_ Nov 16, 2024 1:30 PM food-and-pet-pix

Moltrese EX is also really good but fires gimmick is get 4 then discard all energy which is kinda stupid.

Polar_ Nov 16, 2024 1:31 PM food-and-pet-pix

Sabrina is a must get from Charizard packs, it's really strong

ChivesKirk Nov 16, 2024 1:31 PM food-and-pet-pix

I pulled three Exeggutor EX and four Charizard EX but no Moltres EX or Starmie EX...

legorhin Nov 16, 2024 1:31 PM food-and-pet-pix

you need moltres EX for fire to be viable

ChivesKirk Nov 16, 2024 1:31 PM food-and-pet-pix

I KNOW!!!

ChivesKirk Nov 16, 2024 1:31 PM food-and-pet-pix

sorry...

legorhin Nov 16, 2024 1:32 PM food-and-pet-pix

that's why I don't have a charizard EX deck with my 6 Charizard EXes

ChivesKirk Nov 16, 2024 1:36 PM food-and-pet-pix

I also don't have the regular gen 4/6 style Charizard EX art.

legorhin Nov 16, 2024 5:15 PM food-and-pet-pix

(Not Spooky) Spark Dragon Nov 16, 2024 5:43 PM food-and-pet-pix

Looks like crap, can’t even tell what is going on

legorhin Nov 16, 2024 5:44 PM food-and-pet-pix

all that matters is this thing one-shots setup cards

legorhin Nov 16, 2024 5:45 PM food-and-pet-pix

mewtwo EX with 3 energy? dead instantly

legorhin Nov 16, 2024 5:52 PM food-and-pet-pix

I am painfully close to finishing the last Dex mission and also pretty close to finishing most of the Deck missions

legorhin Nov 16, 2024 5:53 PM food-and-pet-pix

the reward for Deck missions is the rental decks aren't rental anymore, but they aren't any good

legorhin Nov 17, 2024 7:24 AM food-and-pet-pix

got 3 new cards when I woke up

legorhin Nov 17, 2024 7:24 AM food-and-pet-pix

217/220

ChivesKirk Nov 17, 2024 8:55 AM food-and-pet-pix

I finally have a working Mewtwo EX deck. With it, I can beat the expert Lapras EX battle reliably.

ChivesKirk Nov 17, 2024 8:55 AM food-and-pet-pix

I have one Lapras EX and no Butterfree atm

ChivesKirk Nov 17, 2024 8:58 AM food-and-pet-pix

Also, I went into a random battle against this Exeggutor EX deck who lost four coin flips in a row.

legorhin Nov 17, 2024 9:27 AM food-and-pet-pix

degeneracy

Dane Nov 17, 2024 6:27 PM food-and-pet-pix

legorhin Nov 17, 2024 6:38 PM food-and-pet-pix

you also need seaking

legorhin Nov 17, 2024 6:38 PM food-and-pet-pix

and skiddo but you should never run skiddo

ChivesKirk Nov 18, 2024 1:05 AM food-and-pet-pix

I pulled my first Moltres EX. Too bad I really need a second one...

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:00 PM food-and-pet-pix

Are people who complain about Misty decks mentally retarded or am I missing something?

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:01 PM food-and-pet-pix

Your opponent has to do multiple coinflips to possibly create a board state that immediately wins for them, meaning you get to concede pretty much right away

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:01 PM food-and-pet-pix

Meanwhile there are multiple other decks you might try to play it out in that would ultimately waste more time and they're more stable

Rusp Nov 18, 2024 8:01 PM food-and-pet-pix

you know i think to the average person losing on turn 1 and having no chance to win is not fun

legorhin Nov 18, 2024 8:02 PM food-and-pet-pix

I agree

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:02 PM food-and-pet-pix

The % chance of it being a turn 1 auto win is low

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:02 PM food-and-pet-pix

But I never said it wasn't fun, but that it at least saved you the time

Rusp Nov 18, 2024 8:03 PM food-and-pet-pix

i mean i have no room to say anything because i think the entire game is unfun and dogshit

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:04 PM food-and-pet-pix

I'd agree with that aswell tbh, I don't think it's a very fun mobile game. Collecting cards for free is a neat time waster at least

Rusp Nov 18, 2024 8:04 PM food-and-pet-pix

simplifying an already shit tcg down to this means its 90% luck 10% skill

Garbage Nov 18, 2024 8:04 PM food-and-pet-pix

This game is all about what ramps the quickest, OTK is not fun; which makes me think 18 trainers is the most toxic dex, however not nearly the strongest. It's an exodia meme strat but with less luck.

Garbage Nov 18, 2024 8:04 PM food-and-pet-pix

I think Pikachu EX will require nerfs against its build.

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:05 PM food-and-pet-pix

YGO is no different where you most likely will scoop in the first few turns, but you also need to wait 4 minutes for the other person to combo you.

legorhin Nov 18, 2024 8:05 PM food-and-pet-pix

water decks are slow so getting even one head with misty puts you at a massive advantage

legorhin Nov 18, 2024 8:05 PM food-and-pet-pix

even more so if you misty on turn 1 when you aren't supposed to be able to attack

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:06 PM food-and-pet-pix

Replying to Garbage #garbageatgaming

I think Pikachu EX will require nerfs against its build.

Do you think they'll actually edit cards or do a banned/limited card list like a normal tcg

legorhin Nov 18, 2024 8:07 PM food-and-pet-pix

they should ban every card that invokes a coin flip

Rusp Nov 18, 2024 8:07 PM food-and-pet-pix

they would NEVER

Phijkchu_Pikachu Nov 18, 2024 8:07 PM food-and-pet-pix

I think they take the FEH approach

Rusp Nov 18, 2024 8:07 PM food-and-pet-pix

ban cards

Phijkchu_Pikachu Nov 18, 2024 8:07 PM food-and-pet-pix

just power creep

Rusp Nov 18, 2024 8:07 PM food-and-pet-pix

in a gacha

Phijkchu_Pikachu Nov 18, 2024 8:07 PM food-and-pet-pix

Also yeah

Rusp Nov 18, 2024 8:07 PM food-and-pet-pix

that would piss too many people off

legorhin Nov 18, 2024 8:08 PM food-and-pet-pix

instead of having two tiers of matchmaking for no reason whatsoever, it should be EX and no EX

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:08 PM food-and-pet-pix

Isn't every card game a gacha

Garbage Nov 18, 2024 8:08 PM food-and-pet-pix

I'd assume they'd go limited over erratas, ban seems a bit too early in life. I think we will have set rotation to require only using the new set though.

Rusp Nov 18, 2024 8:08 PM food-and-pet-pix

you can buy cards in real life

Rusp Nov 18, 2024 8:08 PM food-and-pet-pix

so its not really an issue

Rusp Nov 18, 2024 8:08 PM food-and-pet-pix

this is actually just luck

legorhin Nov 18, 2024 8:08 PM food-and-pet-pix

you can buy cards in game

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:08 PM food-and-pet-pix

You'd have to spend a stupid amount

Phijkchu_Pikachu Nov 18, 2024 8:08 PM food-and-pet-pix

I think balancing numbers is possible, a ban is not

Phijkchu_Pikachu Nov 18, 2024 8:09 PM food-and-pet-pix

if they lowered pikachu ex to just 20 power per ally, that already is a 30 damage nerf at full setup, and punishes early

Garbage Nov 18, 2024 8:09 PM food-and-pet-pix

I think energy needs to a seperate hand, that starts you with 2, and draw 1 each turn; and then place. and prize cards to win need to be 4.

Garbage Nov 18, 2024 8:10 PM food-and-pet-pix

Them making this a collecting game drastically drops the chance of game modes like drafting too, although I guess it could make it so you don't keep your drafted cards.

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:10 PM food-and-pet-pix

Btw garbage, since you've played the most, what do you think the 3 strongest decks are.

legorhin Nov 18, 2024 8:10 PM food-and-pet-pix

they need to figure out a way to make going first not immediately put you at a disadvantage

Garbage Nov 18, 2024 8:11 PM food-and-pet-pix

Pikachu Ex and Mewtwo Ex are so much better than everything else right now

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:11 PM food-and-pet-pix

Yea those two are really easy

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:11 PM food-and-pet-pix

Third im stuck between dragonite or nidoking

legorhin Nov 18, 2024 8:11 PM food-and-pet-pix

I can still beat both easily because all the players I match up against are retarded

Garbage Nov 18, 2024 8:11 PM food-and-pet-pix

Charizard EX and Venasaur EX will be better if the format is slower

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:12 PM food-and-pet-pix

I've still won vs Mewtwo as Water deck with abysmal coin flips

Garbage Nov 18, 2024 8:12 PM food-and-pet-pix

Liligant is good ramp, but not being passive makes it worse than gardivor

Polar_ Nov 18, 2024 8:12 PM food-and-pet-pix

Replying to Garbage #garbageatgaming

Charizard EX and Venasaur EX will be better if the format is slower

Because of it being mobile i doubt they'd slow the pace down.

Garbage Nov 18, 2024 8:12 PM food-and-pet-pix

Starmie ex will see way more play then articuno ex if we get more water support

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