anime

why does what the manga do have any bearing on if you think the show is good

I count that as a recap episode, most shows separate those out and being recap episodes

instead of being apart of the show itself

unless I am misunderstanding

did they literally just do a bit where they acted like tv announcers

Wasn’t recap, it was the va’s bullshitting in character about random shit like behind the scenes and like tv announcers

lmao

that is 100% apart of the anime then

and yes I judge it for that

if it was run as a normal episode

this is why long running shows like this are bad

It wasn’t considered part of the series by pierrot or any official source

And iirc it wasn’t run as a normal episode

then no, its not apart of the show

I am talking about the official episodes of the show

But by your own logic if it’s released with the show which it was originally it’s considered part of it

If they released it, as an episode, where they intended you to watch it

yes

if its just some extra bullshit they did to skip a week, then its extra bullshit

Again though, we are getting away from the point

I think its completely fair to judge an anime for its episodes

pretending certain parts do not exist because they are not from the source is silly

conversely, you can praise a show for things that are not in the source that is done well

one of my favourite episodes in 86 is basically anime original, with only like 1 line being from the ln

The best episode in shippuden is filler

I understand your point but I disagree

I forget are you a marvel fan vinny

Half assedly

so you hate the new spidermen movies right

I like Tom Holland as the character but the movies themselves are just ok

they are all not based on any source comic and infact, go counter to the character of spiderman

(or so I have heard)

(from nerds who really care)

actually most marvel movies are like that

I think its just silly that I cannot sit down, watch spiderman, and judge if it is a good film or not

The mcu pulls from several versions of the characters making them their own version

Are you skipping the filler parts of one piece

since they do not matter

Most likely

lol

I'm considering not skipping exclusively to say on the vlog I watched all of it

But really filler is meh to me

I am trying to gauge your position here on how you can hold something against a show when it is not apart of the source

so, fullmetal alchemist for example, can we not conclude that by your metric, the original and brotherhood are the same quality, since we ignore the anime original parts of the original

when making judgements

I don't hold things against an adaptation if it is not part of what is being adapted

same quality maybe minus things like animation quality

and what not

as a story, they are completely equal

Like the parts of '03 that are adapted in a lot of places stand above brotherhood

Cause they got lazy and assumed you watched '03 so they truncated it

so the show as a whole then, is better than brotherhood

since we ignore the anime original parts of the original

when judging it

Taking just the adapted parts into consideration brotherhood is better overall because it's a complete adaptation

This isn't to say I didn't enjoy '03, but as an adaptation brotherhood is better in my eyes

okay, its a better adapatation

but that says nothing about its quality as a show

I don't care about the source at all

I think you can point to parts of a show, talk about what you like/don't like about them, and conclude if they are good, without even needing to know the source material

So excluding parts of the show from judgement arbitrarily because some other media did not include them

is silly

The only example I can give is index since I am reading the ln for that. I think a lot of the arcs in index 1 are bad adaptations

they completely change what happens

I also think that the changes are for the better

and the ln is worse in those parts

It's not arbitrary though, due to it being an adaptation of someone else's work

but it is also its own work

it is using a base story

but there is always changes

and you can judge the thing that is adapted without considering the original

at all

let me put it another way. Is it possible for something to be good, but be a poor adaptation

like, 10/10 show, but it barely even follows the source at all

Not really sure to be honest

I think inherently yes, since anything you do not read the source on that you like, could very well be that

without you knowing

its not like following a source rigidly is sufficient or necessary for a show being good