anime

(if a show is mostly bad filler, its a bad show)

I agree they should make better filler if they have to make any at all

Also it is on the writer

the writer of the show

But it’s not on the work they’re making into an anime

I don't give a shit about source material as I said, so I don't care how good the source material is

it is a non factor in saying if an anime is good or not

But what I’m saying is filler made by toei is not an official part of one piece

okay, but it is an official part of the one piece anime

you can 100% judge the anime for it

Questionably

no

pretend the one piece manga did not exist at all

then you can judge the show for what it is

For example, you are not reading the one piece manga, you are watching the anime

Would you count the naruto episode where the characters acted like tv announcers to kill a half hour to keep their original time slot as part of the naruto anime

why does what the manga do have any bearing on if you think the show is good

I count that as a recap episode, most shows separate those out and being recap episodes

instead of being apart of the show itself

unless I am misunderstanding

did they literally just do a bit where they acted like tv announcers

Wasn’t recap, it was the va’s bullshitting in character about random shit like behind the scenes and like tv announcers

lmao

that is 100% apart of the anime then

and yes I judge it for that

if it was run as a normal episode

this is why long running shows like this are bad

It wasn’t considered part of the series by pierrot or any official source

And iirc it wasn’t run as a normal episode

then no, its not apart of the show

I am talking about the official episodes of the show

But by your own logic if it’s released with the show which it was originally it’s considered part of it

If they released it, as an episode, where they intended you to watch it

yes

if its just some extra bullshit they did to skip a week, then its extra bullshit

Again though, we are getting away from the point

I think its completely fair to judge an anime for its episodes

pretending certain parts do not exist because they are not from the source is silly

conversely, you can praise a show for things that are not in the source that is done well

The best episode in shippuden is filler

I understand your point but I disagree

I forget are you a marvel fan vinny

Half assedly

so you hate the new spidermen movies right

I like Tom Holland as the character but the movies themselves are just ok

they are all not based on any source comic and infact, go counter to the character of spiderman

(or so I have heard)

(from nerds who really care)

actually most marvel movies are like that

I think its just silly that I cannot sit down, watch spiderman, and judge if it is a good film or not

The mcu pulls from several versions of the characters making them their own version

Are you skipping the filler parts of one piece

since they do not matter

Most likely

alright, we clearly do not share any semblance of similarity when it comes to what it means to watch something

lol

I'm considering not skipping exclusively to say on the vlog I watched all of it

But really filler is meh to me

I am trying to gauge your position here on how you can hold something against a show when it is not apart of the source

so, fullmetal alchemist for example, can we not conclude that by your metric, the original and brotherhood are the same quality, since we ignore the anime original parts of the original

when making judgements

I don't hold things against an adaptation if it is not part of what is being adapted

same quality maybe minus things like animation quality

and what not

as a story, they are completely equal

Like the parts of '03 that are adapted in a lot of places stand above brotherhood

Cause they got lazy and assumed you watched '03 so they truncated it

so the show as a whole then, is better than brotherhood

since we ignore the anime original parts of the original

when judging it

Taking just the adapted parts into consideration brotherhood is better overall because it's a complete adaptation

This isn't to say I didn't enjoy '03, but as an adaptation brotherhood is better in my eyes

okay, its a better adapatation

but that says nothing about its quality as a show

I don't care about the source at all

I think you can point to parts of a show, talk about what you like/don't like about them, and conclude if they are good, without even needing to know the source material

So excluding parts of the show from judgement arbitrarily because some other media did not include them

is silly

The only example I can give is index since I am reading the ln for that. I think a lot of the arcs in index 1 are bad adaptations