But I don’t think the nutronian physics is physics
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Monday, December 9, 2024
unless you view applied math as an inbetween math and science as well
which is hilarious
I view math is more geometric and shape based, not movement
Do you do any math
like, formally
I’m a civil engineer math is like part of the job
But it’s like number physics math
I see, I think thinking of math as geometry and shape based is weird, since that is basically just one subfield of math
my background for reference is I have a bacholers in mathematical physics, a masters in control theory, and am doing my PhD in information theory.
I think geometry math is neat, but I think there is a lot of more fundemental and amazing things beyond that
See in physics you break down vectors into lines right?
If you are doing newtonian physics
sure
Those lines you use to counter each other and make triangles
I think the physics that is cool is beyond first/second year intro to physics vector calc though personally
I am a really big fan of the Lagrangian formulation of physics
I think calculus of variations is very cool
That makes it too complex
Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tCnVuPmHwI well I am posting it anyways
you will take any opportunity to post this, wont you
Yes dialga
Because you end up breaking it down anyway to solve the problems
Replying to (Not Spooky) Spark Dragon #sparkdragoon Because you end up breaking it down anyway to solve the problems
This is just not true
I mean no disrespect, but there is a lot more to physics and math than vector calculus and basic geometry
if you can disprove the existance of fields Pika, you'd make my life a lot easier
what are you doing involving fields spooky
Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak I mean no disrespect, but there is a lot more to physics and math than vector calculus and basic geometry
These are the fundamentals of it, your physics wouldn’t exist without being built on top of it. Which is why the science I feel is dying because you cannot break it down into its foundation
90% of the work of antenna design is near-field fuckery
and I could do without it!
Spark dragon, those are not even the fundementals though
vector calculus is built off of group theory, measure theory, etc
Replying to Spooky Phijkchu #spooky.131 90% of the work of antenna design is near-field fuckery
Oh you meant fields in that sense
I thought you meant it in a pure math sense of a set with two operations which is an albein group under both operations
that makes more sense
emag field stuff mostly, basic but annoying shit
and science (though this applies to Math/Engineering as well) are dying because it takes 20+ years of study and application to get to the point where you can meaningfully contribute beyond being a glorified monkey
Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak vector calculus is built off of group theory, measure theory, etc
Like yeah, if you go under the hood, almost all of physics is built off of group theory, rings/fields, differential geometry, measure theory, stochastic theory
you can always abstract it math wise more
Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak vector calculus is built off of group theory, measure theory, etc
Basic geometry is a foundational element. The vectors are built on top of the geometry crossing into physics with motion.
I think I agree with Spark Dragon, but I think Pika is arguing a different point
I’m like super autisum
if your model of the universe is Newtonian (or even some hybrid model)
then yes, acknowledging that is founded on very basic concepts is valid
Pika's point is that's not really "deep" though
Yeah, Spooky put it better. Parts of physics absolutely are built on just geometry for the most part
even if you can distil/abstract deep concepts as that (most of the time)
but that is just a shallow depth look at physics
There are parts of physics that cannot be explained by geometry
Which it stops being physics then
That is literally just wrong
Look, if you do not view anything past Newton as real physics, I guess that is a take, but I think its kind of crazy
There are literal classical physics problems that Newtonian physics cannot solve, not even getting into weird stochastic thermal stuff, GR, or Quantum
But Lagrangian mechanics, also a tool of classical physics, can deal with them
which is a theory of differential equations, not geometry and vector analysis
If you can’t break movement into a shape what is it doing?
motion != geometry
Also not all of physics is about movement
What is the steady state position of a wire under the affect of gravity, nothing is moving
that is a physics question
I think it's doing a lot of heavy lifting to say the field of "geometry" covers everything in the physical world
When you break down the problems in physics some part of geometry is almost always used. If you go into the subtypes of physics which shouldn’t be apart of physics anymore then yes there is more interesting things but it is basically building ethereal blocks on top of one another
Okay, if physics to you is just the physical placement of objects
I agree
you are right
The three body problem hasn’t been solved right?
Dude, you are retarded
Dark matter is still a theory?
Good troll, ya got me
I engaged in a converastion instead of watching incest anime
Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak Like yeah, if you go under the hood, almost all of physics is built off of group theory, rings/fields, differential geometry, measure theory, stochastic theory
Nah idk what most of this shit is. Stochastic theory literally flys in the face of physics which is just trying to predict randomness which goes against what random means.
Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak I engaged in a converastion instead of watching incest anime
Why would you watch that
Incest is a good genre
Replying to (Not Spooky) Spark Dragon #sparkdragoon Why would you watch that
You’re telling me you’d date your sister?
Replying to Phijkchu_Pikachu #klombak Good troll, ya got me
Ah my point is that classical physics is more practical and useful than modern physics.
There used to be a website that was a mathematical formula that generated every “structure” from the structure of galaxies to the building of a tree.
@polu